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Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2014 4:30 am

Tshara Gardner, a former Killeen educator and mother of seven, stood outside her home on Elk Ridge Court. Across the street, Timber Ridge Elementary students headed home.

“You move into a neighborhood like this, because you want to be safe,” Gardner said.

The neighborhood did feel safe until Feb. 15. That afternoon, the small cul-de-sac where the neighborhood children played became the site of a vicious dog attack that injured three of her children and shattered the family’s sense of security.

The attack began when a shepherd-malinois mix escaped from the yard of a nearby home and attacked Gardner’s daughter, Adebisi Agunbiade, who was 6 at the time. Adebisi was playing outside the home of a family friend when the attack began.

“I was scared,” said Adebisi, now 7.

Her 12-year-old brother, Adejuwon, also was outside that day. He said he heard screams and saw a dog dragging his little sister in the street. He tried in vain to get the dog to let go of Adebisi.

With the help of a neighbor, Adejuwon eventually was able to get the dog off his sister.

They ran for their home and escaped inside, but not before the dog attacked the small girl several more times and bit the arm of their 5-year-old brother, Av’ry.

The dog also attacked Gardner’s 13-year-old daughter, Ademaya. The attack stopped when a Killeen police officer shot and killed the dog.

Adebisi had the most severe injuries. She was taken to McLane Children’s Hospital Scott & White in Temple and underwent surgery that night. Her left arm is scarred.

But mental scars are far more difficult to cope with, Gardner said.

‘UPSIDE DOWN’

She noticed a drastic change in her daughter, who was once eager to go play outside.

“She was afraid to step outside,” Gardner said. “She didn’t even want to walk to the mailbox.”

The young girl had nightmares, her mother said, and was constantly afraid that “something bad” would happen to her and her family.

Adebisi was diagnosed with acute post-traumatic stress disorder.

Her older brothers and sisters also struggled to cope with the incident. The children who were attacked, and Gardner herself, have struggled to get back to normal.

“It’s like a domino effect. ... It’s just turned everything upside down,” she said.

Tania Glenn, a psychologist who specializes in PTSD, said the disorder can be especially difficult for young children and teens.

“Kids don’t have the insight and understanding of the world that adults do,” Glenn said. “Many times you see it manifest in their behavior.”

Glenn said that behavior can include intense phobias and night terrors. Symptoms of PTSD in children also can manifest in “acting out” behaviorally, which can sometimes lead to misdiagnosis.

“Many times these kids get diagnosed with attention deficit disorder, or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder,” Glenn said.

SPEAKING OUT

As her family continues to recover, Gardner said she wants to speak out and raise awareness about dog attacks. Reading about the death of 2-year-old Camari Robinson of Killeen, who was killed in a similar dog attack March 1, also played a role in her decision to speak out.

“I was devastated when I heard the news about Camari’s death,” she said.

Camari’s mother, Angela Robinson, has become an outspoken advocate on the issue, urging Killeen officials to re-examine the city’s laws on dangerous animals.

Gardner, too, said she wants dog owners and the public to educate themselves on warning signs of potentially dangerous dogs.

“You can’t wait until the dog attacks someone,” she said.

Officials appear to be listening to residents’ concerns. At a recent workshop, Killeen City Council members and Police Chief Dennis Baldwin discussed possible ways to strengthen the city’s ordinances regarding dog ownership such as requiring all dogs be microchipped and allowing code enforcement and animal control to enforce stricter fencing requirements.

The recommendations now sit with the city’s animal advisory committee, which will review them before presenting them to the council for a vote at a future meeting.

As officials move forward in their efforts to curb dog attacks in Killeen, Gardner and her family work to recover from the trauma of their ordeal.

Adebisi’s injuries are healing, and neighborhood children are playing in the small cul-de-sac again.

“I don’t want my daughter to spend the rest of her life afraid,” Gardner said.

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22 comments:

  • Bubba posted at 7:25 am on Wed, May 21, 2014.

    Bubba Posts: 661

    If you knew who they were you should have filed complaints of civil and a criminal nature and make people do their jobs.

     
  • ImJustSayin posted at 6:36 am on Wed, May 21, 2014.

    ImJustSayin Posts: 51

    Sure, called the police and there was nothing being done ... the Parents could have cared less and in the end, the neighbors children set my privacy fence on fire and my boy got so stressed by the fire department breaking down the fence, the fire etc that his gut twisted and he died an hour before his vet appointment. I was at work when I got the call and it ripped everything out of me. As to the Fire, The Fire Marshall did not come and talk to me personally but my daughter who was home at the time of the fire heard him say that "Boys will be Boys". This incident has caused me a lot of emotional trauma. The smell of a Fire Place, A BBQ Grill sends me running around looking and checking if anything is on fire .... and lots of other things. No one did anything .... because the only "thing" that died was my dog ... and he was just a dog. Thank goodness everyone who caused issues has been moved with the Military and we are now surrounded by retired folks but my emotional scars remain. It is too long to write everythings down here and too many emotions are coming back up. I have been diagnosed with PTSD, Depression and Anxiety due to this incident and as you can tell ...... I question things very much because I have been on the other end. People need to realize that to some people their dogs are their family ..... and just like I took care of my kids, I take care of them.

     
  • Bubba posted at 5:59 pm on Tue, May 20, 2014.

    Bubba Posts: 661

    Were there no police where you lived? No parents?

     
  • ImJustSayin posted at 6:49 am on Tue, May 20, 2014.

    ImJustSayin Posts: 51

    In all of these attacks it seems that the dogs just break lose and attack. There are no incidents before that, this all just happens out of no where. I own a large dog and it takes a lot to get him excited so I am just wondering if anyone has any insight of why these dogs attacked.
    Yes, the incidents are tragic but in order to get things under control all angles need to be looked at. I had, for YEARS, children run up and down my fence and bang on it to make the dogs bark ..... hight pitch screaming was also part of this torture. Many time I had to run outside to get these kids to stop and was given the "finger".
    How do we control this type of behavior that is a precursor to bad dog behavior?
    There is more Human on Human violence than dog on human .......
    My dogs are behind a privacy fence and in my house to protect them from ignorant humans and not the other way around.

     
  • ShastaDog96 posted at 8:47 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    ShastaDog96 Posts: 1

    Jaloney and McCartney, when will you ever shut up? Seriously, dont you people have families or a job or sports to watch on TV or something?!?! You spend ALL of your time bashing DOGS and owners of these dogs. When will you educate yourselves?? When will you stop spreading lies. You know, with as much time as you two spend on the internet, you could be using that time to teach dog sfety to children or make petitions for leash laws or mandatory spaying or neutering. In case you haven't noticed, BSL isn't working. Education works. Sad you can't notice that.
    BSL laws drop like flies each and every day, and more and more people are accepting our breed, adopting them, rescuing them, having TV shows about them, etc.
    What YOU want isn't going to happen. The exact opposite is.
    Stop watering a dead flower.

    I am going to feel bad if you two continue posting your sh!t until you are old and feeble, and you've lost all your friends and family because you chose to be a hermit and do nothing but sit on the internet, foaming.

     
  • Bubba posted at 8:38 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    Bubba Posts: 661

    We don't need 25 posts from mccartney to document the problem. We need solutions.

     
  • Jaloney posted at 1:33 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    Jaloney Posts: 1

    Texas is a pithole. I guess they think tourists can read.

     
  • Thomas McCartney1933 posted at 12:19 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    Thomas McCartney1933 Posts: 65

    21 People dead by dog attack in 2014
    Pit bull type dogs killed 18 of them.
    Twelve of the dead are children.

    Stars indicate people killed by a ‘family’ pit bull – ones that had
    been raised and cherished as an indoor pet, ‘never showed aggression
    before’, and knew the victim.

    Child fatalities by pit bull type dog (11)
    Kara E. Hartrich, 4 years old, Bloomington, Illinois. **
    Je'vaeh Maye, 2 years old, Temple Texas.
    Braelynn Rayne Coulter, 3 years old, High Point, North Carolina. **
    Kenneth Santillan, 13 years old, Patterson, N.J.
    Raymane Camari Robinson, 2 years old, Killeen, TX
    Mia Derouen, 4 years old, Houma, Louisiana
    Christopher Malone, 3 years old, Thornton, MS **
    John Harvard, 5 year old, Riverside, AL
    Kassi Haith, 4 years old, Felton, Del.
    Demonta Collins, 13 years old, Augusta, Georgia
    he dashed into traffic as he was running from a pit bull attacking him and was hit by a car and was killed.
    Davon Jiggetts,17 years old, Riverdale, Georgia
    he dashed into traffic as he was running from a pit bull attacking him and was hit by a car as was the pit bull, both were killed.

    Adult fatalities by pit bull type (7):
    Christina Burleson, 43 years old, Houston, Texas.
    Klonda S. Richey, 57 years old, Dayton, Ohio.
    Nancy Newberry, 77 years old, Phoenix, AZ. **
    Dorothy Hamilton, 85 years old, Kaufman, TX **
    Petra Aguirre, 83 years old, San Antonio TX
    Betty Clark, 75 years old, San Antonio TX
    Katie Morrison, 20-years old, Smiths Station, AL

    That’s 86% killed by attacking pit bull type dogs.
    Pit Bull type dogs are only about 6% of the entire dog population.

    Summer Sears, 4 years old, Tallassee, AL by Husky/German Shepard Cross
    Nyhiem Wilfong, 1 year old, Caldwell County, N.C. by Rottweiler. **

    89-year-old Annabell Martin, Corona, CA. by her grandson’s three Rottweilers.**
    *******************************************************************
    33 People dead by dog attack in 2013.
    Pit bull type dogs killed thirty of them. sixteen of the twenty-nine dead are children.
    Stars indicate people killed by a ‘family’ pit bull – ones that had been raised and cherished as an indoor pet, ‘never showed aggression before’, and knew the victim.

    Child fatalities by pit bull type dog (16):
    Christian Gormanous – 4 yrs old Montgomery County, TX
    Isaiah Aguilar – 2 yrs old Sabinal, TX
    Ryan Maxwell – 7 yrs old ** Galesburg, IL.
    Dax Borchardt – 14 mos old ** Walworth, WI.
    Monica Laminack – 21 mos old ** Ellabelle, GA.
    Tyler Jett – 7 yrs old Callaway, FL.
    Jordyn Arndt – 4 yrs old ** Prairie City, IA.
    Beau Rutledge – 2 yrs old ** Fulton County, GA.
    Ayden Evans- 5 yrs old ** Jessieville, AR.
    Nephi Selu – 6 yrs old ** Union City, CA.
    Arianna Jolee Merrbach – 5 yrs old Effingham, SC.
    Daniel (surname as yet not revealed) – 2 yrs old (Gilbert, Arizona) **
    Samuel Eli Zamudio – 2 yrs old** Colton, CA
    Jordan Ryan– 5 yrs old Baker city, Oregon
    Levi Watson-Bradford-4 years old** White County, Arkansas
    Jah’niyah White - 2 years old ** Chicago, Ill

    Adult fatalities by pit bull type (13):
    Betty Todd – 65 yrs old ** Hodges, SC
    Elsie Grace – 91 yrs old ** Hemet, CA
    Claudia Gallardo – 38 yrs old Stockton, CA.
    Pamela Devitt – 63 yrs old Littlerock, CA.
    Carlton Freeman – 80 yrs old Harleyville, SC.
    Linda Oliver – 63 yrs old Dayton, TX.
    James Harding – 62 yrs old -Baltimore, MD
    chased into traffic by two attacking pit bulls
    Juan Campos – 96 yrs old Katy, Texas.
    Terry Douglass 56 years old. **Baltimore, MD
    Katherine Atkins-25 years old ** Kernersville, NC
    Nga Woodhead-65 years old Spanaway, WA.
    Joan Kappen, 75 years old Hot Springs Ark
    Michal Nelson, 41 years old Valencia County, New Mexico **

    (1 non-pit type killing) [Rachel Honabarger - 35 yrs old - mauled to death by her own GSD mix] Coshocton, OH.

    (1 husky-mix killing, unknown if the other half of the dog was pit bull) [Jordan Lee Reed – 5 yrs old] Kotzebue, AK

    (1 Shiba Inu killing) Mia Gibson - age 3 months, of Gibson, OH - mauled to death by family Shiba Inu.

    Three of the pit bull type dogs were BULL mastiffs, ie 40% pit-fighting bulldog.

    If 27 of 33 dead were killed by pit bull attack, that’s 82% dead by pit attack, 9% dead by ‘molosser’, 3% by some kind of GSD mix, 3% by a husky + possibly pit mix, 3% by Shiba Inu.

    If you count the pit-mix mastiffs as pit bull types, that’s 91% killed by attacking pit bull types. Pit types are only about 6% of the entire dog population.

    The man who ran into traffic kept pit bulls himself. He knew perfectly well what the two stranger pit bulls that were chasing him would do if they caught him, so he preferred to risk a swift death by oncoming car.

    534 maimed by pit type dogs 2013 (as of November.28).

     
  • Thomas McCartney1933 posted at 12:19 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    Thomas McCartney1933 Posts: 65

    Myth #1: It's the owner not the T-rex

    Myth # 2: It's impossible to identify a T-rex

    Myth #3: Human-aggressive T-rex's were "culled"

    Fatal attack statistics about T-rex's are false

    The media conspiracy against T-Rex's

    T-rex's are not unpredictable

    T-Rex's do not have a locking jaw, they just eat you alive

    T-Rex's used to be the most popular dinosaur in America

    T-rex's pass the American Temperament Test

    Punish the deed not the breed (of dinosaur)

    T-rex's originally were "nanny dinosaurs"

    T-rex's were once known as nanny dino's.

    T-Rex's will lick you to death.

    There's no need to muzzle and leash your T-Rex in the Doggy Park.

    Don't forget to attend our 'Million T-Rex March' on The White House. President Obama loves T-Rex's and he thinks everyone should own one. Except him.

    Its not an attack if the T-rex is wagging its tail.

    There no bad T-rex's...only bad owners.

    I've seen chihuahuas more aggressive than my T-Rex.

    *giggles*

    TSL has been proven not to work in Denver

    Best babysitters ever....NOT

    MY T-rex is the sweetest dino ever.

    T.Rex's make the BEST Therapy Dinos ever. And are wonderful as Guide-Dinos for The Blind.

    velociraptors bite more than T-rex's.

    Let's set up a T-rex kissing booth for our kids.

    Let's bring a T-rex into school and let the children read books to a perfectly trained T-rex

    Let's bring our T-rex to the walk for the victims of T-rex's in Houston to show them they don't have to be afraid of T-rex's

    T-rexBite dot org

    Hey now...educate yourself guys.

    My T-Rex likes coconuts!

    you're all just racist against T-Rex's!!!

    please leave t~Rex's alone my family had bred them for years and the only time i was bitten was by a pibble.

    educate yourself you hater,I hope get mauled by a chihuahua.

    t-rex make the best nanny dinosaur, its all how they are raised don't you know.

    I will be posting this at the dinosaurs love kids and kids love dinosaurs.

    don't you know the famous dinosaur barney?

    president roosevelt had a dinosaur and fred flintstone.

    helen keller had 25 of them.

    wiggle tails?

    educate yourself its haters like you that give dinosaurs a bad name.

    come over to my house and meet my t-rex

    awww you really hurted my feelings, Im going to go eat worms!!

    My brontosaurus bites and my T-Rex never does. In fact the T-Rex is scared of him!

    T-rex only bite if they're trained to

    my vet says t-rex is the only dinosaur that doesn't bite

    I have 8 t-rex and I'm a vet tech

    I'am a vet tech too and i have a therapy dinosaur, it reads to kids at schools

    64 kids crawl all over my t-rex, and he's never shown aggression

    Get the FACTS!!!

    there's no such thing as a t-rex

    people are so quick to label anything 20 ft tall with a 5 foot neck and muscular as a so called "t-rex"

    all dinosaurs have teeth

    Their are over 30 types of dinosaur mistaken for a T-Rex, not only that, their is a media conspiracy against them. T-Rex attack stories sell.

    My T-Rex saved my life; he roared at a bit of smoke & we evacuated the house. Last week I read that a T-Rex killed a child; that is SO rubbish - there is no such thing as a T-Rex! Get educated! I'm so done with this - I'm going to feed my T... I mean my Giant Lizard. Goodbye!

    t-rex aren't real. nothing is real.

    omg u ppl r so ignorent!!!!!!! i had a terradactle an that little basturd was way meaner than my t-rex!!!!!! only ppl who fight t-rexes make them mean an bite so dont judge the hole bread just cuz a few buttwipes train there dinos to attack i raise my t-rex with love an he kisses us all the time!!!!!! U PPL R RACIST AN U MAKE ME SICK!!!

    t-rex built this great nation

    ROTFLMAO!

    You haters only have 153 likes. Our T-Rex breeders club has 4000! TAKE THAT, HATERS!!!

    It's a nannysaurus!

    Parents need to teach their brats proper kindness and respect around t-rex. ANY dinosaur has it's breaking point when TERRIFIED!!

    Good news, T - Rex went extinct and no longer prey on communities.

    T-Rex's are as safe as any other dinosaur. You guys are just racist.

    more kids are injured falling down, so what are we going to ban falling down next?!!!

    My T-Rex smiles at me every time I walk in the door. He even lets my two year old ride his tail. Was this T- Rex neutered??? This wouldn't happen if he was. Do not spew your hate towards MY T-Rex! Responsible T-Rex ownership 101. WE ARE WINNING. OUR T-REX'S ARE WINNING. SUCK IT HATERS

    My T-rex pulled a baby from a burning building. He is the best nanny t rex god ever made. He wouldnt hurt a fly.

    My T - Rex is an ambassador for the breed. He passed his T - Rex Good Citizenship test performed by my best friend and passed with flying colors. I bring him to dog parks and he is a perfect angel. He even loves cats!

    my t-rex is gorgeous and sweet but would defend me to the bitter end

    It isn't my T-Rex you need to worry about; it's ME. They might have culled the man-biters out of HIS lizard-lineage, but they let them live in MY ancestors! Grrrrr!

    sorry to have to report this but

    my T-rex just killed my Dino dog, it had always been sweet and had never bit anyone before.

    The -Rex will be going to the flintstone dinosaur rescue farm for unstable dinasaur's

    My t-rex is tattooed on my *#@!

    omg did you vagazzle it too!?

    My T Rex lets my 5 year old put press on nails on him.

    My t rex only wants to love and kiss you all over . Lmbo

    see you later i am off to see the T-rex fights tonight.

    The owners need to wash the T-rex's before the fight so that proves they are safe? right???

    T Rex's are not fighting dinosaurs!!!!!! Please educate yourself about the bread!

    blame the deed not the bread

    my great grandaddy JP Colby bred game T-rex in the 1920's

    all your fat over weight pigs have nothing on a real all american game bred T-rex.

    Darn Dino mommys

     
  • Thomas McCartney1933 posted at 12:18 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    Thomas McCartney1933 Posts: 65

    ALEXANDRA SEMYONOVA, animal behaviorist

    You will also not prevent the dog from being what he is genetically predisposed to be. Because the inbred postures and behaviors feel good, fitting the body and brain the dog has been bred with, they are internally motivated and internally rewarded.

    This means that the behavior is practically impossible to extinguish by manipulating external environmental stimuli.

    The reward is not in the environment, but in the dog itself! As Coppinger and Coppinger (2001, p. 202) put it, “The dog gets such pleasure out of performing its motor pattern that it keeps looking for places to display it.” Some dogs get stuck in their particular inbred motor pattern.

    As pointed out above, this kind of aggression has appeared in some other breeds as an unexpected and undesired anomaly – the golden retriever, the Berner Senne hund, the cocker spaniel have all had this problem.

    The lovers of aggressive breeds try to use these breeding accidents to prove that their aggressive breeds are just like any other dog, “see, they’re no different from the cuddly breeds.” But a cuddly breed sometimes ending up stuck with a genetic disaster does not prove that the behavior is normal canine behavior. All it proves is that the behavior is genetically determined.

    "These dogs aren't killers because they have the wrong owners, rather they attract the wrong owners because they are killers." The 100 Silliest Things People say about dogs.

    JOHN FAUL, animal behaviorist

    Faul said they were dangerous and a threat to life. He said the pitbull was bred to be absolutely fearless and had a "hair-trigger" attack response.

    "The cardinal rule is that these dogs are not pets," he said.

    "The only way to keep them is in a working environment."

    He said the only relationship one could have with the pitbull was one of "dominance, sub-dominance", in which the dog was reminded daily of its position.

    ANDREW ROWAN, PhD, Tufts Center for Animals

    "A pit bull is trained to inflict the maximum amount of damage in the shortest amount of time. Other dogs bite and hold. A Doberman or a German shepherd won't tear if you stand still.

    A pit bull is more likely to remove a piece of tissue. Dogs fight as a last resort under most circumstances. But a pit bull will attack without warning. If a dog shows a submissive characteristic, such as rolling over most dogs wills top their attack. A pit bull will disembowel its victim."

    "A study by Dr Randall Lockwood of the US Humane Society found that pit bulls are more likely to break restraints to attack someone and that pit bulls are more likely to attack their owners, possibly as a result of owners trying to separate their dogs from victims."

    Jørn Våge, Tina B Bønsdorff, Ellen Arnet, Aage Tverdal and Frode Lingaas, Differential gene expression in brain tissues of aggressive and non-aggressive dogs

    The domestic dog (Canis familiaris), with its more than 400 recognised breeds [1], displays great variation in behaviour phenotypes.

    Favourable behaviour is important for well-being and negative traits such as aggression may ruin the owner-dog relationship and lead to relinquishment to shelters or even euthanasia of otherwise healthy dogs [2,3].

    Behavioural traits result from an interaction of both genetic and environmental factors. Breed specific behavioural traits such as hunting, herding and calmness/aggression are, however, evidence of a large genetic component and specific behaviours show high heritabilities [4-8].

    ALAN BECK, Sc.D

    However, Alan Beck, director of the Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine Center of the Human-Animal Bond, favors letting the breed go into extinction.

    “This breed alone is a risk of serious public health factors,” Beck said. “We are keeping them alive against their own best interests.”

    Beck said while he does not advocate taking dogs from current and caring owners, he does feel that it has become more of a social and political issue for people than a health one.

    “If these dogs were carrying an actual disease, people would advocate euthanizing them,” Beck said. “This breed itself is not natural.”

    "It has this sort of mystique that attracts a population of people. Of course, most of these dogs are never going to bite, as champions of the breed will tell you. But most people who smoke don't get cancer, but we know regulations help reduce a significant risk."

    "I know you're going to get beat up for this. But they just aren't good dogs to own. That's why so many of them are relinquished to shelters. There are too many other breeds out there to take a chance on these guys."

    MERRITT CLIFTON, journalist, Animal People editor

    There are very few people, if any, who have written more on behalf of dogs over the past 40-odd years than I have, or spent more time down the back alleys of the developing world observing dogs in the habitats in which normal dogs came to co-evolve with humans.

    But appreciation of the ecological roles of street dogs & coyotes, exposing dog-eating and puppy mills, opposition to indiscriminate lethal animal control, introduction of high-volume low-cost spay/neuter and anti-rabies vaccination, introduction of online adoption promotion, encouraging the formation of thousands of new humane societies worldwide, etc., are not to be confused with pit bull advocacy.

    Pit bull advocacy is not defending dogs; it is defending the serial killers of the dog world, who kill, injure, and give bad reputations to all the rest. Indeed, pit bull advocacy, because it erodes public trust in dogs and people who care about dogs, stands a good chance of superseding rabies as the single greatest threat to the health, well-being, and human appreciation of all dogs worldwide.

    STANLEY COREN, PhD

    "A dog's breed tells us a lot about that dog's genetic heritage and makeup. Genetics is a strong determinant of personality. In the absence of any other information, we can make a reasonable prediction about how the dog will behave based upon its breed." p 84

    "When we crossbreed, we lose some of that predictability, since which genes will be passed on by each parent and how they will combine is a matter of chance. Fortunately, there is some data to suggest that we can still make predispositions without knowing much about its parentage.

    John Paul Scott and John L Fuller carried out a series of selective breeding experiments at the Jackson Laboratories in Bar Harbor, Maine. By happy chance, their results revealed a simple rule that seems to work. Their general conclusion was that a mixed breed dog is most likely to act like the breed that it most looks like." p 77

    Dog trainers/animal control, Pit Bull breeders, owners, fanciers, experts

    TRISH KING, Director, Behavior & Training Dept. Marin Humane Society

    "There is no direct eye contact or very little direct eye contact. It is very quick and over with. Which is one reason why with pit bulls and rottweilers, we have problems. Because they're bred to do direct eye contact and so they are off putting to other dogs and actually scary to other dogs."

    The fourth undesirable characteristic - arousal or excitement - is actually the most problematic. Many bully dogs cannot seem to calm themselves down once they get excited. And once they get excited all their behaviors are exacerbated.

    Thus, if a dog is over-confident and has a tendency to body slam or mount, he or she will really crash into the other dog or person when he's aroused, sometimes inadvertently causing injury. He may begin to play-bite, and then bite harder and harder and harder.

    When you try to stop the behavior, the dog often becomes even more "aggressive." In this way, play can turn into aggression fairly quickly. Research on the brain has shown that excited play has exactly the same chemistry as extreme anger. This allows a play behavior to switch quickly into aggression. And, once the dog has become aggressive a few times, the switch is much easier.

    DIANE JESSUP, pit bull expert, breeder, former ACO

    "Jessup, the animal control officer in Olympia, uses two pit bulls to train police and animal control officers on surviving dogs attacks.

    Unlike dogs who are nippers and rippers, her pit bulls are typically "grippers" who bite down and hang onto their victims."

    Jessup believes that much of dog behavior comes from their genes. “I truly believe that a dog is about 90% genetics,” says Jessup.

    on protection sports

    This difference in “sheepdog versus bulldog” mentality in a trainer is best understood when training the "out!” or release command. It is common practice for those training shepherds and sheepdog types to use force such as hard leash corrections or electric shock to get the dog to release the sleeve.

    Sadly, I had one young man come to me because a club trainer was slugging his little Am Staff female in the nose, till she bled, trying to get her to release the sleeve.

    She would not! And of course she would not! She was a good little bulldog, hanging on for dear life, just as her bull and bear baiting ancestors of old did.

    She was a super little gripping dog, who took the pain she experienced as just “part of the job” once her owner set her upon the sleeve. And this is the response from well bred pit bulldogs—to ignore pain while gripping. It is, after all, what they are bred for! Give me a bulldog like her, rather than one which will allow itself to be yanked off the sleeve due to pain.

    MICHAEL BURNS, Los Angeles Animal Control Lt.

    You have a dog that has aggressive tendencies enhanced through constant and incestuous breeding. If there are some recessive genes on the aggressive or psychotic side, they will make themselves manifest.

    They are different. There's an absence of the normal sounds a dog makes when it attacks. It's almost a workmanlike way they hold on in an attack. It's a persistence I haven't seen in any other breed.

    KURT LAPHAM, a field investigator for the West Coast Regional office of the Humane Society

    Most breeds do not multiple-bite. A pit bull attack is like a shark attack: He keeps coming back.

    DAVID GENDREGSKE, Clare County MI Animal Control Director

    “In my opinion they appeal to the most irresponsible pet owners and to younger people,” he said.

    “The younger people have no jobs to support the animal, or they have to move where animals aren’t allowed and (the dogs) end up here.” Certain people like pit bulls because they are intimidating, he said. “They want to scare people. It’s an intimidation thing.

    They’re number one with those being incarcerated. If there’s a dog left behind (when someone is sentenced to jail or prison), it’s always a pit bull,” he said. He cited the time a pit bull got out of a car and attacked a horse.

    He was pulled off, but he went back and grabbed the throat. He was pulled off again and again and went back after different parts of the horse. “What kind of a dog but a pit bull would do that?” he asked. “All dogs can bite but not with that ferocity. “ Some people will say that how a pit bull acts and reacts is dependent upon how the dog is raised, he said.

    “But he was raised to kill for centuries,” he said. “You can’t breed it out in one generation.” If the popularity of pit bulls is a fad, it’s a long term one, he said. “I keep seeing more and more pit bulls,” he said. “It’s getting worse.”

    Pit bulls, he said, are not good as a working dog, except for perhaps wild boar hunting. “And they’re not one of the smarter breeds,” he said, despite other’s beliefs that they are intelligent.

     
  • Thomas McCartney1933 posted at 12:16 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

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    KEVIN COUTTS, Head Dog Ranger, Rotorua, New Zealand

    There was concern among dog authorities about American pitbulls being allowed into New Zealand as they were dangerous, unpredictable animals, Mr Coutts said.

    "A lot of people in this town get them because they are a staunch dog and they will fight. They are perceived as vicious ... It's frustrating they were ever allowed in the country ... we can't go back now though," Mr Coutts said.

    COUTTS' comment on a pit car mauling

    This sort of thing happens when people own this breed of dog and then don't look after them.

    VICTORIA STILWELL, celebrity dog trainer

    Presas are not to be fooled with, they're dangerous. You've got a fighting breed here. You've got a dog that was bred for fighting. You've got one of the most difficult breeds to handle.

    CESAR MILAN, celebrity dog trainer

    "Yeah, but this is a different breed...the power that comes behind bull dog, pit bull, presa canario, the fighting breed - They have an extra boost, they can go into a zone, they don't feel the pain anymore. He is using the bulldog in him, which is way too powerful, so we have to 'make him dog' (I guess as in a "regular" dog) so we can actually create the limits.

    So if you are trying to create submission in a fighting breed, it's not going to happen. They would rather die than surrender.". If you add pain, it only infuriates them..to them pain is that adrenaline rush, they are looking forward to that, they are addicted to it...

    That's why they are such great fighters." Cesar goes on to say..."Especially with fighting breeds, you're going to have these explosions over and over because there's no limits in their brain."

    GARRETT RUSSO, dog trainer

    I estimate Medical & Veterinary bills related to injuries caused by pit bulls in the Tompkins Square dog run in 2011, $140,000.00. Estimated Medical (human) & Veterinary (canine) bills from all other breeds and mixed breeds combined during the same period, $5,000.00. (Estimate gathered from reports to by owners to the dog park association.)

    STEVE DUNO, dog trainer, pit bull owner

    "The dogs that participated in these attacks weren't Pekingese. You don't have herds of Pekingese roaming the city attacking people. When someone says all breeds are created equal, well then they're denying the definition of what a breed is. Breed serves a particular purpose."

    "I like them. They're eager. They're athletic. They're aesthetically pleasing. But even if they're bred perfectly, they can be problematic, particularly with other dogs."

    "When you combine the breed specific behaviors ... with owners who either don't give a rip, or with owners who (have) too much dog, you have a problem."

    JEAN DONALDSON, dog trainer

    Most commonly, she sees dogs with aggression problems. While she's a fierce opponent of "breed bans" like the proposed outlawing of pit bulls that San Francisco debated two years ago, she believes it's undeniable that some breeds are predisposed to violence.

    Many breeds that were bred as guardians or fighting dogs were carefully designed to not like strangers, she says. She thinks it's disingenuous of breeders to further enhance this trait, and then expect owners to compensate with training.

    ARLENE STERLING, Newaygo County, MI Chief Animal Control Officer

    "It is genetically inbred in them to be aggressive. They can be very nice dogs, but they are very prey driven and they are extremely strong. It makes them high risk dogs and it makes them extremely dangerous."

    BOB KERRIDGE, New Zealand SPCA executive director

    "That is the only real way to solve this problem - is to license owners and to give them the responsibility that goes with owning a dog. It would be extremely useful when you have a neighbour who is concerned about that dog next door. You can look at it and see they don't have a license and take it away. That's owner responsibility."

    "We led the charge to stop the importation of the pitbull because of the concerns they would be crossbred with other dogs... But there's not a lot we can do about that because it's happened. We wish someone had listened all those years ago."

    JIM CROSBY, pit bull hired gun

    "Line breeding tends to concentrate recessive traits. The propensity for violent attacks by a dog would be a recessive trait."

    MELANIE PFEIFFER, veterinary assistant

    Working in a veterinary hospital, you are exposed to all kinds of animal trauma. One of the more common ones is dog fights. I can honestly say that in three out of four cases, an American pit bull terrier is involved. Many times, we are able to save the life of the afflicted, but yesterday, we were not.

    I propose that all owned American pit bull terriers be registered and all breeding be halted indefinitely. How many mutilated faces, mangled limbs, butchered pets and even human deaths does it take to convince us that this breed needs to be phased out?

    DIANE JESSUP, Washington pit bull owner and expert

    "It's not sensible to get an animal bred for bringing a 2,000-pound bull to its knees and say I'm going to treat this like a soft-mouth Labrador," says Jessup, the former animal-control officer. She blames novice owners, as much as actual criminals, for bringing the breed into disrepute. "It's a capable animal, and it's got to be treated as such."

    JOHN ROCKHOLT, South Carolina dogman

    "It's inhumane not to allow them to fight. If you have to encourage them to fight they are not worth the powder it would take to blow them away. To never allow them any kind of combat...That's inhumane."

    RAY BROWN, former pit bull owner, breeder, dog fighter

    Pit bulls didn't become dangerous because we fight them; we fight them because the English specifically bred them to be dangerous.

    MARK PAULHUS, HSUS southeast regional coordinator

    If it chooses to attack, it's the most ferocious of all dogs. I've never known of a pit bull that could be called off (during a fight). They lose themselves in the fight.

    F.L. DANTZLER, HSUS director of field services

    "They're borderline dogs. They're right on the edge all of the time. Even if the dogs are not trained or used for fighting, and even though they are generally good with people, their bloodline makes them prone to violence."

     
  • Thomas McCartney1933 posted at 12:15 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

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    KENNETH PHILLIPS, Attorney for dog bite victims dogbitelaw dot com
    In 2013, there have been 18 canine homicides of which 17 were committed by pit bulls or pit bull mixes. Our dogs are not killing us. Pit bulls are killing us.

    And although pit bulls attack and kill strangers like Claudia Gallardo, 38 (killed by a pit bull in the front yard of its owner's house in Stockton, California) and Pamela Devitt, 63 (killed by 4 pit bulls running at large as she took a walk in Antelope Valley, California), the usual victims are our children, parents and guests.

    I have come to believe that the modern pit bull should not be thought of as a dog at all. A dog is man’s best friend, but this is an animal that will kill the man, his wife, his children, his parents and the guests in his home. Clearly this is not man’s best friend; clearly it is not a “dog” in the sense that we think of a dog.

    Charles Manson was anatomically a man, sociologically a neighbor, and legally a citizen, but he is spending his life behind bars because he was a deranged individual who orchestrated mayhem and murder. Just because pit bulls look like dogs, they do not have to be thought of like we think about dogs such as golden retrievers and Yorkshire terriers.

    In almost all homicides carried out by pit bulls, the owners and neighbors express shock and disbelief because the animal never gave a sign that it wanted to kill anyone.

    But to me, this is like a drunk driver expressing shock and disbelief that his car could kill. In both types of cases, a person made a choice to do something incredibly reckless, either by getting drunk or by getting the animal that makes headlines because of the frequency and brutality of its killing. We need to stop people from doing these reckless things.

    Lawmakers have to stop listening to the nonsense about breed specific laws which is spouted by the owners of bully dogs like pit bulls. Since 2006 there have been 3 psychological studies which focused on the personality and behavioral traits of the owners of pit bulls and other high-risk breeds of dog.

    A study published in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence showed a link between ownership of high-risk dog breeds and deviant behaviors, crimes against children and domestic violence. Another study concluded that "vicious dog ownership may be a simple marker of broader social deviance."

    A third study established that the owners of high-risk breeds of dog displayed more antisocial thinking styles, have an arrest history significantly higher than owners of other dogs, and engage in fighting to a significantly greater degree than other dog owners.

    They also had higher levels of overall criminal thinking patterns to go with the actual criminal behavior. These people, who are fixated on the animals that kill, maim and terrorize, are not the people that a lawmaker needs in his camp. Reasonable people want fair laws that provide a solution to the obvious problems caused by pit bulls.
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    KENNETH BAKER, Home Secretary, UK

    "The intention of the Dangerous Dogs Act was to eliminate breeds like pit bulls in this country. For the first five years it worked very well, but as soon as the Government gave in to animal charities the whole thing was doomed.

    There is no need for anyone to have these dogs, and to suggest that you can somehow educate the owners – well, I just don't think that's realistic if you look at who the owners are."
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    DAVID PREMACK, PhD Psychology -
    comparative understanding of cognition and its understanding of the nature of animal and human minds
    In my view, the first time a breed kills a child — without extreme provocation — the breed should be eliminated.

    After all, there is no difficulty producing breeds that do not kill children. Indeed, breeds that do not kill children despite extreme provocation can be readily produced.
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    PILAR WAGNAR, Allstate spokeswoman, Clearwater, FL

    Allstate Insurance Co., one of the country's largest insurers won't insure new customers who own pit bulls.

    Pit bulls have a higher-than-average tendency to be unpredictable and cause unprovoked attacks with serious injuries. They're basically lethal weapons. The liability exposure is unbelievable.

    Owners of dobermans, German Shepherds, Rottweilers and other potentially dangerous dogs are not turned away by Allstate.
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    KATE RINDY, co-author Pit Bulls Are Different, former HSUS employee and assistant to Randall Lockwood, former executive director of Santa Fe Animal Shelter & Humane Society

    "Dog owners are naive about the dogs strength and stubborn character."
    "People have Pits and do not understand the potential risk factor."
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    PEGGY E. WARFLE, Manager Wake Society to Prevent Cruelty to Animal Shelters, Raleigh, NC.

    "All Pit Bulls should be spayed and neutered" ..."That way we could do away with the breed, couldn't we? It wouldn't be a great loss to dogdom."
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    BENJAMIN HART, professor emeritus at the UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine and animal behaviorist

    "It's quite common for a pit bull to show no signs of aggression. People will call it a nice dog, a sweet dog, even the neighbors - and then all of a sudden something triggers the dog, and it attacks a human in a characteristic way of biting and hanging on until a lot of damage is done."

    Hart said pit bulls are responsible for about 60 percent of dog attack fatalities each year, which is "way out of proportion" compared with other breeds. Pit bulls make up less than 5 percent of the American dog population.

    "It's very poor policy to allow any child around a pit bull, in my mind, let alone climb on a dog."

     
  • Thomas McCartney1933 posted at 12:15 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

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    9.16.2013

    Legal Experts and the Enemy of Humanity

    THOMAS J. MOYER, Chief Justice, Ohio Supreme Court 1987-2010

    "The trial court cited the substantial evidence supporting its conclusion that pit bulls, compared to other breeds, cause a disproportionate amount of danger to people. The chief dog warden of Lucas County testified that: (1) when pit bulls attack, they are more likely to inflict severe damage to their victim than other breeds of dogs; (2) pit bulls have killed more Ohioans than any other breed of dog; (3) Toledo police officers fire their weapons in the line of duty at pit bulls more often than they fire weapons at people and all other breeds of dogs combined; (4) pit bulls are frequently shot during drug raids because pit bulls are encountered more frequently in drug raids than any other dog breed.... The evidence presented in the trial court supports the conclusion that pit bulls pose a serious danger to the safety of citizens. The state and the city have a legitimate interest in protecting citizens from the danger posed by this breed of domestic dogs."

    WILLIAM M HOEVELER, US DISTRICT JUDGE, ADOA v Dade County, Florida

    Despite plaintiffs' contention that there is no such animal as a pit bull, plaintiffs' own experts have written articles about their pedigreed dogs referring to them by the common nickname of pit bull. At trial, these experts identified photographs of dogs as pit bulls, rather than delineating the dogs into any one of the three breeds recognized by the kennel clubs. Moreover, veterinarians commonly identify dogs as pit bulls -- rather than one of the three recognized breeds -- by their physical characteristics.

    Two veterinarians, testifying for the defendants, stated that they are often called upon to identify a dog's breed because it is an integral part of the animal's health record. This they do by reference to standard physical characteristics. Generally, these veterinarians testified, owners themselves know what breed their dog is.

    There was ample testimony that most people know what breed their dogs are. Although the plaintiffs and their experts claim that the ordinance does not give them enough guidance to enable owners to determine whether their dogs fall within its scope, the evidence established that the plaintiffs themselves often use the term "pit bull" as a shorthand method of referring to their dogs. Numerous magazine and newspaper articles, including articles in dog fancier magazines, refer to pit bull dogs. Veterinarians typically refer to the three recognized breeds and mixed breeds with conforming characteristics as pit bulls. In addition, the veterinarians who testified stated that most of their clients know the breeds of their dogs.

    DON BAUERMEISTER, Council Bluffs, IA prosecutor

    All dogs can "get into it". The reality, though, for way too many dog owners is the sudden, unprovoked, violent and very serious attack from a pit bull. These folks have to pay the immediate vet bill. Yes, sometimes, the Court is able to intervene and order restitution, but what about the dead dog. What about the psychological damage to those who had to witness the attack. I have seen pit bulls attack and injure other dogs. It is something that you will never forget. A very purposeful bite, indeed. Pit bulls are pros and the rest of the dog world are amateurs. Man made them this way.

    KORY NELSON, Denver, CO City Attorney

    The most significant point about the justification for bans or restrictions of pit bulls is that these are not dependent upon a claim that every pit bull has a higher than average propensity for attacking humans. The justification is based on the clear evidence that, as a group, pit bulls, compared to other breeds, generally have a higher propensity to exhibit unique behavioral traits during an attack.

    These behaviors havea higher likelihood of causing more severe injuries or death. The Colorado Dog Fanciers trial court made this clear, stating that, while it could not be proven that pit bulls bite more than other dogs, there was “credible evidence that Pit Bull dog attacks are more severe and more likely to result in fatalities.” The court, in great detail, noted fourteen separate areas of differences, including: strength, manageability and temperament, unpredictability of aggression, tenacity, pain tolerance and manner of attack.

    A municipality that is experiencing a problem with pit bull attacks needs to consider for itself the best course of action to protect its citizens, especially those most likely to be unable to defend themselves from the tenacious and sustained attack of a pit bull, who will likely bite, hold, and tear at its victim despite efforts to stop it. However, given the clear rational evidence, breed-specific legislation is still a legally viable option.There is no new evidence that undermines the holdings of Colorado Dog Fanciers, only new relevant evidence that adds additional support for BSL, as the differential treatment of pit bulls is based upon logical, rational evidence from the scientific field of ethology.

    BOB JOHNSTONE, Cincinnati, OH city attorney

    We have amassed what I consider an overwhelming amount of information that demonstrates to me that pit bulls are, by far, responsible for more fatal or serious attacks than any other breed.

    JUDGE VICTOR E. BIANCHINI, San Diego, CA

    A pit bull is the closest thing to a wild animal there is in a domesticated dog.

    U.S. SUPREME COURT, April 26, 1897, SENTELL v. NEW ORLEANS & C. R. CO.

    Laws for the protection of domestic animals are regarded as having but a limited application to dogs and cats; and, regardless of statute, a ferocious dog is looked upon as hostis humani generis, and as having no right to his life which man is bound to respect

     
  • Thomas McCartney1933 posted at 12:14 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

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    Here's what dog behaviorist Dr. Radcliffe Robins has to say:

    "Temperament is 100% genetic; it is inherited, and fixed at the moment of the dog’s fertilization/conception/birth.

    Temperament in the dog cannot be eliminated nor transformed from one type to another.

    It cannot change during the dog’s lifetime. It is the permanent mental/neurological characteristic of the individual dog.

    Environment, socialization or training can MODIFY the expression of an individual dog’s temperament, but they cannot transform it nor eliminate it.

    The dog will die with the temperament with which it was born."

    ALEXANDRA SEMYONOVA, animal behaviorist

    You will also not prevent the dog from being what he is genetically predisposed to be. Because the inbred postures and behaviors feel good, fitting the body and brain the dog has been bred with, they are internally motivated and internally rewarded.

    This means that the behavior is practically impossible to extinguish by manipulating external environmental stimuli.

    The reward is not in the environment, but in the dog itself! As Coppinger and Coppinger (2001, p. 202) put it, “The dog gets such pleasure out of performing its motor pattern that it keeps looking for places to display it.” Some dogs get stuck in their particular inbred motor pattern.

    As pointed out above, this kind of aggression has appeared in some other breeds as an unexpected and undesired anomaly – the golden retriever, the Berner Senne hund, the cocker spaniel have all had this problem.

    The lovers of aggressive breeds try to use these breeding accidents to prove that their aggressive breeds are just like any other dog, “see, they’re no different from the cuddly breeds.” But a cuddly breed sometimes ending up stuck with a genetic disaster does not prove that the behavior is normal canine behavior. All it proves is that the behavior is genetically determined.

    "These dogs aren't killers because they have the wrong owners, rather they attract the wrong owners because they are killers." The 100 Silliest Things People say about dogs.

    JOHN FAUL, animal behaviorist

    Faul said they were dangerous and a threat to life. He said the pitbull was bred to be absolutely fearless and had a "hair-trigger" attack response.

    "The cardinal rule is that these dogs are not pets," he said.

    "The only way to keep them is in a working environment."

    He said the only relationship one could have with the pitbull was one of "dominance, sub-dominance", in which the dog was reminded daily of its position.

    ANDREW ROWAN, PhD, Tufts Center for Animals

    "A pit bull is trained to inflict the maximum amount of damage in the shortest amount of time. Other dogs bite and hold. A Doberman or a German shepherd won't tear if you stand still.

    A pit bull is more likely to remove a piece of tissue. Dogs fight as a last resort under most circumstances. But a pit bull will attack without warning. If a dog shows a submissive characteristic, such as rolling over most dogs wills top their attack. A pit bull will disembowel its victim."

    "A study by Dr Randall Lockwood of the US Humane Society found that pit bulls are more likely to break restraints to attack someone and that pit bulls are more likely to attack their owners, possibly as a result of owners trying to separate their dogs from victims."

    Jørn Våge, Tina B Bønsdorff, Ellen Arnet, Aage Tverdal and Frode Lingaas, Differential gene expression in brain tissues of aggressive and non-aggressive dogs

    The domestic dog (Canis familiaris), with its more than 400 recognised breeds [1], displays great variation in behaviour phenotypes.

    Favourable behaviour is important for well-being and negative traits such as aggression may ruin the owner-dog relationship and lead to relinquishment to shelters or even euthanasia of otherwise healthy dogs [2,3].

    Behavioural traits result from an interaction of both genetic and environmental factors. Breed specific behavioural traits such as hunting, herding and calmness/aggression are, however, evidence of a large genetic component and specific behaviours show high heritabilities [4-8].

    ALAN BECK, Sc.D

    However, Alan Beck, director of the Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine Center of the Human-Animal Bond, favors letting the breed go into extinction.

    “This breed alone is a risk of serious public health factors,” Beck said. “We are keeping them alive against their own best interests.”

    Beck said while he does not advocate taking dogs from current and caring owners, he does feel that it has become more of a social and political issue for people than a health one.

    “If these dogs were carrying an actual disease, people would advocate euthanizing them,” Beck said. “This breed itself is not natural.”

    "It has this sort of mystique that attracts a population of people. Of course, most of these dogs are never going to bite, as champions of the breed will tell you. But most people who smoke don't get cancer, but we know regulations help reduce a significant risk."

    "I know you're going to get beat up for this. But they just aren't good dogs to own. That's why so many of them are relinquished to shelters. There are too many other breeds out there to take a chance on these guys."

    MERRITT CLIFTON, journalist, Animal People editor

    There are very few people, if any, who have written more on behalf of dogs over the past 40-odd years than I have, or spent more time down the back alleys of the developing world observing dogs in the habitats in which normal dogs came to co-evolve with humans.

    But appreciation of the ecological roles of street dogs & coyotes, exposing dog-eating and puppy mills, opposition to indiscriminate lethal animal control, introduction of high-volume low-cost spay/neuter and anti-rabies vaccination, introduction of online adoption promotion, encouraging the formation of thousands of new humane societies worldwide, etc., are not to be confused with pit bull advocacy.

    Pit bull advocacy is not defending dogs; it is defending the serial killers of the dog world, who kill, injure, and give bad reputations to all the rest. Indeed, pit bull advocacy, because it erodes public trust in dogs and people who care about dogs, stands a good chance of superseding rabies as the single greatest threat to the health, well-being, and human appreciation of all dogs worldwide.

    STANLEY COREN, PhD

    "A dog's breed tells us a lot about that dog's genetic heritage and makeup. Genetics is a strong determinant of personality. In the absence of any other information, we can make a reasonable prediction about how the dog will behave based upon its breed." p 84

    "When we crossbreed, we lose some of that predictability, since which genes will be passed on by each parent and how they will combine is a matter of chance. Fortunately, there is some data to suggest that we can still make predispositions without knowing much about its parentage.

    John Paul Scott and John L Fuller carried out a series of selective breeding experiments at the Jackson Laboratories in Bar Harbor, Maine. By happy chance, their results revealed a simple rule that seems to work. Their general conclusion was that a mixed breed dog is most likely to act like the breed that it most looks like." s.

     
  • Thomas McCartney1933 posted at 12:14 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

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    In Calgary, by Bill Bruce's own admission and documentation, pit bulls lead the serious bite count with 13% of the city's serious bites attributable to pit bulls, yet pit bulls account for less than 1% of the city's dogs.

    In fact, pit bulls are responsible for nearly as many serious bites (13%) as the ENTIRE sporting breeding category (15%), which includes all of the most popular breeds (Labs, Goldens, Poodles, Spaniels, etc) and houses 70% of Calgary's dogs.

    Why aren't these breeds attacking in the face of irresponsible ownership?

    An example of why leashing and licensing laws don't work to solve the breed-specific problem of pit bulls:

    Pitbull supporters always point to Calgary Model as the perfect solution when dealing with dangerous dogs. The city introduced its responsible pet ownership bylaw in 2006.

    Calgary’s bylaw department emphasizes responsible pet ownership through intensive licensing, hefty fines and owner education.

    Has their model worked? The statistics from the past four years would indicate a resounding "NO". For the past four years dog bites have risen steadily every year, and over 350% in the past 4 years, from 58 in 2009 to 203 in 2012.

    And In 2010 Pit bulls led the 'bite' count. Meanwhile in Toronto, four years after implementing Breed Bans, dog bites were down 32%, from 486 to 329.

    Bites in Toronto blamed on the four banned breeds fell sharply, from 71 in 2005 to only six in 2010.

    Considering these breeds regularly inflict the most serious damage, this is an undeniable win for the citizens of Toronto.

     
  • Thomas McCartney1933 posted at 12:14 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

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    About 31,400 dogs attacked about 61,500 other animals in the U.S. in 2013, killing 43,500 and seriously injuring 18,100.

    The animals killed included about 12,000 dogs, 8,000 cats, 6,000 hooved animals, and 17,000 other small domestic animals, primarily poultry.

    The seriously injured included about 12,400 dogs, 4,000 cats, and 1,700 hooved animals. Few small mammals and poultry survived reported dog attacks.

    Pit bulls inflicted 99% of the total fatal attacks on other animals (43,000); 96% of the fatal attacks on other dogs (11,520); 95% of the fatal attacks on livestock (5,700) and on small mammals and poultry (16,150); and 94% of the fatal attacks on cats (11,280).

    About 30,000 pit bulls were involved in attacks on other animals, many of them killing multiple other animals.

    There are about 3.2 million pit bulls in the U.S. at any given time, according to the annual Animal24-7 surveys of dogs offered for sale or adoption via online classified ads.

    Thus in 2013 about one pit bull in 107 killed or seriously injured another animal, compared with about one dog in 50,000 of other breeds.

    Nationally, fatal and disfiguring attacks by dogs from shelters and rescues have exploded from zero in the first 90 years of the 20th century to 80 since 2010, including 58 by pit bulls, along with 22 fatal & disfiguring attacks by other shelter dogs, mostly Rottweilers & bull mastiffs.

    Altogether, 33 U.S. shelter dogs have participated in killing people since 2010, including 24 pit bulls, seven bull mastiffs, and two Rottweilers.

    The only dogs rehomed from U.S. shelters to kill anyone before 2000 were two wolf hybrids, rehomed in 1988 and 1989, respectively.

     
  • Thomas McCartney1933 posted at 10:10 pm on Sun, May 18, 2014.

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    Count Me In As A Hater

    "That's Canine Racism!"
    A common tactic used by the pit bull industry to shut down any public safety discussion is throwing out the pit bull race card. The Pit Bull problem is an entirely man made creation which could be solved by breeding safer dogs in responsible numbers.

    Instead, the breed community seems to be locked onto the blaming others and creating excuses for the situation they've created. Pit Bull attacks are always the fault of the owner or victim, and never caused by reckless breeding or the dog fighting industry.

    Then the tone deaf advocates hide behind the excess pit bulls they created and blame society for the "Hate".... totally oblivious that the hatred is not toward these poor animals, but that it is aimed toward the grotesque and criminally irresponsible breed stewardship that they toil day and night to perpetuate.

    Race Card Phenomenon:
    Frederick Schauer, who teaches a course on the first amendment at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, was reading about some dog lovers who claimed ''canine racism'' in response to measures to curb attacks by pit bulls in New York City.

    That particular race card, he said, was an extreme example of how society has become so obsessed with avoiding any stereotypes that it ignores reality.

    Pit bulls are more aggressive than other breeds, he said, just as statistics show older people have slower reflexes than the young, and there are more bad drivers in Massachusetts than in Vermont. A fair number of generalizations, he insists, turn out to be accurate.

    Let's explore reasons to hate the $Billion dollar a year tax free Pit Bull Industry:

    I hate it when a kid is laying on the coroner's table.

    I hate it when someone's Grandmother is poured into the life flight helicopter.

    I hate it that dogfighters kill 250,000 pits a year...hell bent on engineering a better mauler.

    Fatal dog attack, Rosie Humphreys
    I hate it when a nice lady and her dog are killed by a chain breaking pit bull and the owner gets a mere $150 ticket

    I hate it that the dog lobby is behaving as corruptly as the tobacco lobby in the 50's and 60's.

    I hate it that Pit breeders pump out one Million excess dogs that the taxpayer has to euthanize....to top it off they don't pay taxes.

    I hate it that only convicted felons seem to be able to properly identify Pit Bulls.

    I Hate it when well intentioned Dog Safety Legislation is perverted into a Pit Bull Breeder's and Dog Fighters Bill Of Rights

    I hate the grotesque breed stewardship exerted by the Pit Bull community.

    I hate when family members of Officers in a state Pit Bull club are busted trafficking fighting dogs.

    I hate The Nanny Dog Lie

    I hate it that Law Enforcement is continually having to shoot these animals.

    I hate it that the Animal Control Professions and Animal welfare Community have abandoned their public safety responsibility

    I hate it when a pit bull owner leaves a blind person and their injured service dog helpless.

    I hate it when radicalized Humane orgs like the Toronto Humane Society spent in excess of $400,000 saving a Pit Bull that attacked on 4 separate occasions, yet this woman can't get plastic surgery:

    Marie-Helene Tokar

    I hate it that Pit Bull mauling victims have to hold bake sales and blood drives to pay medical costs, while some Pit Bull advocates live in 500K plus houses.

    I hate it that nearly 130 Americans have been killed by Pit Bulls since the Vick Bust in 2007, yet they claim success.

    I hate it that Michael Vick's Beagles have been erased from history.

    I hate it that Pit Bull advocates show zero respect to their victims by not wearing black on Pit Bull Awareness day.

    I hate it when the neighborhood Mail Carrier is put on the disability rolls.

    I hate it when a neighborhood dog is ripped apart by a Pit Bull.

    I hate it that Pit Bulls are approaching 500 world wide DBRFS yet their breeders insist they aren't human aggressive.

    I don't mind it so much when a consenting adult pit bull owner is attacked by their own animal, but I do hate the first responder costs...just being honest!

    Oh well...Hose the blood off the sidewalk and pump out another litter!

     
  • Colleen Lynn posted at 9:54 pm on Sun, May 18, 2014.

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    [beam] Merritt, stop trying to fool Joe Public with your faux 'statistics'.

     
  • Thomas McCartney1933 posted at 9:27 pm on Sun, May 18, 2014.

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    Here's what dog behaviorist Dr. Radcliffe Robins has to say:

    "Temperament is 100% genetic; it is inherited, and fixed at the moment of the dog’s fertilization/conception/birth.

    Temperament in the dog cannot be eliminated nor transformed from one type to another.

    It cannot change during the dog’s lifetime. It is the permanent mental/neurological characteristic of the individual dog.

    Environment, socialization or training can MODIFY the expression of an individual dog’s temperament, but they cannot transform it nor eliminate it.

    The dog will die with the temperament with which it was born.
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    Darrin Stephens
    Dog Attack Deaths and Maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to May.25, 2013.

    By compiling U.S. and Canadian press accounts between 1982 and 2013, Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal24-7, shows the breeds most responsible for serious injury and death.

    Study highlights

    Pit bull type dogs make up only 6% of all dogs in the USA.

    The combination of Pit Bulls, rottweilers, their close mixes and wolf hybrids and other Pit Bull Type Dogs:

    84% of attacks that induce bodily harm.

    75% of attacks to children.

    87% of attack to adults.

    72% of attacks that result in fatalities.

    80% that result in maiming.

     
  • Bubba posted at 7:04 pm on Sun, May 18, 2014.

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    Punishing after the fact passes the important message that offenders will be punished. Right now, they are getting away with killing children.

     
  • MerrittClifton posted at 6:28 pm on Sun, May 18, 2014.

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    Public safety is only protected if laws prohibit the conditions leading to accidents, whether the issue is fire safety, gun safety, vehicular safety, the prevention of contagious disease, or dog attacks. Punishing people after the fact for creating a safety risk does little or nothing to inhibit risky behavior by risk-taking personalities. Two categories of dog between them have accounted for more than 90% of all fatal & disfiguring dog attacks occurring in the U.S. since 1844: the molossers, including pit bulls, Rottweilers, mastiffs, boxers, and their many mixes, who together are about 9% of the dog population but account for about 80% of the fatalities and disfigurements, and the "wolf-like" breeds, including Akitas, German shepherds, Malinois, huskies, Malamutes, wolf hybrids, and miscellaneous others that are sometimes passed off as wolf hybrids. These account for about 4% of the dog population, but 10% of the fatal and disfiguring attacks. Significantly restrict possession of these two breed categories, & fatal & disfiguring dog attacks will drop back to the level of 1930-1960, when the U.S. averaged 0.5 fatal dog attacks per year, while the large molosser and "wolf-like" dog groups were together less than 3% of the dog population. (Pit bulls, now 5% by themselves, were less than 1%.)

     
  • Bubba posted at 1:44 pm on Sun, May 18, 2014.

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    Stop talking about ridiculous requirements like putting chips in dogs or requiring certain fences. The city needs to legally punish dog owners that fail to maintain the peace and control their dogs. If the dog kills a human, the dog owner must be charged with that death as required by state law. Failure to do so is flat out incompetence by your district attorney. Owners in fatal attacks need to be jailed; as do owners of dogs causing serious injury. Non-injury attacks must result in fines against owners. Citizens who have an irresponsible dog owner for a neighbor and that neighbor has an uncontrolled dog, those citizens need to arm themselves with an appropriate firearm and ammunition to kill the uncontrolled dog at the first attack.

    Before you get all swelled up, know this: I am a dog owner; and a responsible one. I am a firearms owner; and a responsible one. I also endured 5 attacks from a 150 pound rottweiler dog in my neighborhood over the course of 18 months. I had the owner fined after 3 attacks, and that was not enough to restrain either owner or dog. I had to deal with an incompetent, mealy-mouthed animal officer after the 5th attack; I realized I was my best solution. I informed the officer that next time I would do his job for him, and shoot the dog. I let the officer and dog owner know that I was going to be armed for this purpose on my daily walks. I told the officer that when I had to do his job, I would do everything in my power to relieve him of future responsibility. This is what it took to get the attention of those concerned, and the attacks stopped.