Advising that a moment of silence is the preferable way to open school board meetings, the Freedom from Religion Foundation has sent a letter to the Killeen Independent School District.

Dated Dec. 7, the letter is signed by Sam Grover, associate counsel for the Wisconsin-based foundation. The letter’s purpose is to alert KISD to “constitutional concerns and community objections to the practice of scheduling prayer” at KISD board meetings.

The Freedom from Religion Foundation has 30,000 members nationally, and 1,300 members in Texas, according to the letter.

The foundation previously sent a letter to KISD on Aug. 6, 2015, about the same issue. KISD Superintendent John Craft responded to that letter on Aug. 26, 2015, acknowledging the district would “evaluate our policies, practices and procedures to ensure compliance with the law.”

The foundation’s letter acknowledges the case, American Humanist Association vs. Birdville Independent School District, which was decided by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. That decision allows student-led statements that “could include an invocation” to take place at school board meetings.

Given that the KISD board meeting prayers are led by board members, however, the Dec. 7 letter from the foundation urges KISD to “voluntarily cease opening its meetings with prayer.” The letter continues, “Replacing the prayer practice with a moment of silence would allow the Board’s meetings to come to order without ostracizing a significant portion of those in attendance.”

In response to the letter, Terry Abbott, KISD chief communications officer, said, “The Freedom From Religion Foundation’s opposition to prayer does not supersede the authority of the Killeen ISD Board of Trustees whose duly elected members have the responsibility under Texas law to govern the district.”

Abbott continued, “The practice implemented by the Killeen ISD school board after the 2015 contact was for the board president, at each meeting, to allow a board member to voluntarily either give the invocation or to lead the board in a moment of silence. That practice continues.”

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Forms of legitimate government are posited to include:[citation needed]
Communism: The legitimacy of a Communist state derives from having won a civil war, a revolution, or from having won an election, such as the Presidency of Salvador Allende (1970–73) in Chile; thus, the actions of the Communist government are legitimate, authorised by the people. In the early twentieth century, Communist parties based the arguments supporting the legitimacy of their rule and government upon the scientific nature of Marxism. (See dialectical materialism.)
Constitutionalism: The modern political concept of constitutionalism establishes the law as supreme over the private will, by integrating nationalism, democracy, and limited government. The political legitimacy of constitutionalism derives from popular belief and acceptance that the actions of the government are legitimate because they abide by the law codified in the political constitution. The political scientist Carl Joachim Friedrich (1901–84) said that, in dividing political power among the organs of government, constitutional law effectively restrains the actions of the government.
Democracy: In a democracy, government legitimacy derives from the popular perception that the elected government abides by democratic principles in governing, and thus is legally accountable to its people.
Fascism: In the 1920s and the 1930s, fascism based its political legitimacy upon the arguments of traditional authority; respectively, the German National Socialists and the Italian Fascists claimed that the political legitimacy of their right to rule derived from philosophically denying the (popular) political legitimacy of elected liberal democratic governments. During the Weimar Republic (1918–33), the political philosopher Carl Schmitt (1888–1985)—whose legal work as the "Crown Jurist of the Third Reich" promoted fascism and deconstructed liberal democracy—addressed the matter in Legalität und Legitimität (Legality and Legitimacy, 1932), an anti-democratic polemic treatise that asked: How can parliamentary government make for law and legality, when a 49 per cent minority accepts as politically legitimate the political will of a 51 per cent majority?
Monarchy: In a monarchy, the divine right of kings establishes the political legitimacy of the rule of the monarch (king or queen); legitimacy also derives from the popular perception (tradition and custom) and acceptance of the monarch as the rightful ruler of nation and country. Contemporarily, such divine-right legitimacy is manifest in the absolute monarchy of the House of Saud (est. 1744), a royal family who have ruled and governed Saudi Arabia since the 18th century. Moreover, constitutional monarchy is a variant form of monarchic political legitimacy which combines traditional authority and legal–rational authority, by which means the monarch maintains nationalist unity (one people) and democratic administration (a political constitution).

Maybe we need to look more at doing what is right before we make this a religious law. See like ISIS, it seems some of our leaders want to be like ISIS and use GOD to defend the way they are taking from the people. Like this BOND, they want you to think that GOD wants you to pay 150 mil for a high school so only those in that dist will get the use while kids in Dist 1 qand other failing dist have to suffer. They want you to belive that GOD wants you to stop eating, stop taking your meds and use the money for the BOND. See this is a game that people like Terry ABbott use to get votes. This is telling you that that Terry Aboott and the rest believe that people in Killeen are not smart enough to see what they are doing. They are know using your GOD against you.


Maybe KISD and City council should reread this one as well Chronicles 19:6-7 ESV
And said to the judges, “Consider what you do, for you judge not for man but for the Lord. He is with you in giving judgment. Now then, let the fear of the Lord be upon you. Be careful what you do, for there is no injustice with the Lord our God, or partiality or taking bribes.” Yeah Abbott you and your family may want to read that one a few times. Yeah that is right I am a minister of the lord. I talk truth, not falsehoods to win a vote.


First, Kisd is nothing more then a represented of the community. That means you represent all of the community not just those that pray.
So here is a few quotes that for some reason if you do not read the whole story any one can twist them.
John 18:36 ESV
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”

1 Peter 2:13-17 ESV Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Matthew 22:21
They said, “Caesar's.” Then he said to them, “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's

Now lets look at tis one while we look at Terry Abbott and the rest of the Thives, Killeen tx kings and queens should stop and actually read the bible and not sit with a bunch of people that use the bible to get their own way like Big spoiled brats.

Matthew 6:1-34 ESV /
“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. ...


Here is the full text of our statement to the Killeen Daily Herald on this issue:
"The Freedom From Religion Foundation contacted Killeen ISD by letter on August 6, 2015 regarding prayer at KISD Board of Trustees meetings. We have today received another letter from that organization. The Freedom From Religion Foundation’s opposition to prayer does not supersede the authority of the Killeen ISD Board of Trustees whose duly elected members have the responsibility under Texas law to govern the district. The practice implemented by the Killeen ISD school board after the 2015 contact was for the board president, at each meeting, to allow a board member to voluntarily either give the invocation or to lead the board in a moment of silence. That practice continues. As we enter the holiday season, we wish everyone a Merry Christmas, happy holidays and a very happy new year." Terry Abbott, Chief Communications Officer, Killeen Independent School District


The authority of the Killeen ISD Board of Trustees, whose duly elected members have the responsibility under Texas law to govern the district, doesn't supersede the nations Constitution. Using government authority and resources to impose a religious practice treads upon The Establishment Clause and maligns the religious rights of citizens. Our government has no religious right to show favor for one religion or another, or to endorse religion over non-religion.


The jackass finally shows her true colors. The school board needs to tell this organization to pound sand.


centexdave: The school board needs to respect The Constitution and all of our religious rights by not imposing a religious action on attendees of a government event.


I agree with Freedom people, I see this as a ploy by KISD school to use prayer as a way of knowing who is a follower and who is a leader. The school board would not want leaders that wont kiss each others butts.
Prayer has nothing to do with school board meetings, use the time to meet the people in attendance instead of show boating with prayer. I see down here in the bible belt, prayer has become something political, instead of one praying for the right reasons, it seems our elected officials turn t it and like nash-king claim to be sent by God to get votes, its a sickness.
Stop using prayer as a political statement all you guys are doing is ruining what it means to pray, and worship. Because not one of you actually understand what prayer is.
I think City Council and Kisd members are actually demons sent from the Morningstar himself ( the morning star was the Devils nickname cause he shined like the morning star)

So I pray daily that God himself will send the angels soon and destroy these demons that have become fake and false leaders in our community!

I hope the freedom peeps sue the heck out of them.

BTW I think maybe I will get them to help me, so there isn't a church built on the corner of my street, a street that cant handle that traffic and to save my property value, because the church will drop it by a lot, as churchs are built a dime a dozen in high crime areas, that is the first sign your neighborhood is loseing and has become crime central, count the number of churches in high crime areas and you will see what I mean.

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