Killeen property owner pocketbooks will feel the pinch for years if two proposed bond packages from the city and Killeen school district are approved by voters in May.

On Tuesday, the city announced its intent to float a companion bond to pay for infrastructure tied to new facilities outlined in the district’s proposed debt package.

The district’s plans include the construction of a sixth high school and a slew of middle and elementary schools to keep up with expected student population growth in the coming decades.

At the very least, the city expects to issue $46 million in debt to pay for four major road improvement projects, but that scope could change dependent on the whims of the Killeen City Council — which will have to cobble together a bond proposal by Feb. 13 to make it on the May ballot.

Regardless of the council’s decision, the city could find itself chasing after the district if the district’s bond passes and the city’s does not. That scenario will be at the center of the council’s decision making in the next two months.

What we know

Killeen City Manager Ron Olson offered few details Tuesday on what a potential bond package would include, but the city outlined four major road projects that would be necessary to accommodate the school district’s planned facilities.

Those projects, by city-assigned priority, include:

• Expansion of Chaparral Road from two to five lanes — $21.5 million

• Expansion of East Trimmier Road south of Stagecoach Road from two to five lanes — $7 million

• Expansion of West Trimmier Road between Stagecoach and Chaparral roads from two to five lanes — $7.9 million

• Expansion of Featherline Road between Stagecoach and Chaparral roads from two to five lanes — $9 million

The total cost for all four projects — the baseline principal amount for a proposed bond — is $45.6 million.

What the city has not yet disclosed, in part because the council has not yet discussed it, are any other projects that will be included in the bond proposal.

City officials have long considered using bond proceeds to fund road improvements throughout north Killeen, specifically along Rancier Avenue leading east from the east gate of Fort Hood. But if the city wanted to “link votes,” as Olson put it, between the city and district bonds, the city’s proceeds could be tied to infrastructure that only services the school district’s new facilities.

If the city does not link its bond to the district, that opens the possibility of a citywide road improvement bond that could include wishlist items such as Rancier Avenue or Watercrest Road, which the city has highlighted as a top repair priority.

The city currently holds $252 million in municipal debt, according to the Texas Bond Review Board.

Alternatively, the city could propose a bond — as it did in 2002 — that includes road improvements and facility construction.

In that year, the city brought forward four general-ballot propositions that amounted to $69 million in debt and raised the city’s property tax rate by 15.6 cents per $100.

The city has highlighted a new Bob Gilmore Senior Center as a priority, but other options include renovations to City Hall and the construction of new fire stations in southwest Killeen to maintain the city’s Tier 1 fire insurance rating.

The city is expected to discuss what will be included in the total bond proposal at a coming workshop and special meetings yet to be scheduled.

Taken by surprise

Olson said Tuesday the city and district had been in discussion on possible bond issues “for months,” but council members seemed surprised by the sudden proposal from the city.

Councilman Gregory Johnson said it appeared the city was being “dragged along” by KISD’s bond proposal.

“The left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing,” Johnson said in an email Tuesday. “There’s a lack of coordination between the City of Killeen and KISD in regards to growth.”

Johnson highlighted his call for joint meetings between the council and district that have gone unheeded since his election to the council in May 2016, saying the two entities chose to operate independent from one another rather than cooperate.

“KISD shouldn’t dictate the City’s growth,” he said. “The City is ultimately reasonable for that in partnership with other government entities and market conditions. I’m not going to rush to raise taxes and fees on citizens or go to the bond market without thoroughly analyzing the situation.”

However, Councilman Jonathan Okray said Tuesday the council needed to be decisive and not ignore the city’s seemingly inevitable growth to the south.

“What’s happening is reality is happening,” Okray said. “It’s called growth.”

Councilwoman Debbie Nash-King said the city needed to identify a solution immediately.

“The elephant is out,” she said. “KISD has come to our home and told us what’s coming.”

The last time the city issued a voter-approved bond was in 2002, the same year the district last issued its own bond package.

Since then, however, the city has issued a number of revenue bonds, which are paid back through utility ratepayer money, and certificates of obligation, which are meant for emergency scenarios — both of which do not need voter approval.

Will it pass?

If the council does put a bond up for voter approval in May, it will hope its short campaign to boost taxpayer confidence in the city’s financial controls has paid off.

The city is in the midst of overhauling its financial policy in light of a $394,000 external management audit completed in August. The new policy formalizes long-term budget strategy, limitations on issuing debt, and the promotion of better control and oversight of city assets and funds.

As recently as 2016, the council was mired in a slashing spree after a preliminary budget presentation showed a projected $8 million shortfall. Though the council cut enough to bridge the gap, seeds of distrust were sown in the minds of residents who showed up by the dozens to public hearing sessions in late summer.

Despite the reworked policy, a bond issue in May could put some of its stipulations in jeopardy from the start.

The city’s policy would push the city to keep level or decrease the percentage of its property tax rate dedicated to debt service to a goal of 25 percent. The city’s current percentage dedicated to debt service is 34.2 percent.

That means if the council proposed a bond in May, it will come with a property tax rate increase to be compliant with internal policy. Without a dollar figure, its unknown what the associated tax rate increase could be.

Councilman Jim Kilpatrick feared that if the city did not raise its property tax to stay consistent with its new polices, it would immediately put the city on bad footing with residents.

“We’re going to speak double-talk to our citizens,” Kilpatrick said Tuesday.

Killeen’s debt

The city already has one of the highest property tax rates — 74.98 cents per $100 of taxable value — in a group of 12 comparable municipalities, according to city records.

The two cities in Killeen’s “benchmark” group that have higher rates are Copperas Cove, at 79.79 cents per $100, and Waco, at 77.62 cents per $100. The city’s benchmark group includes Lubbock, Amarillo, Pasadena, Mesquite, McAllen, Waco, Abilene, Beaumont, Temple, Cove, Harker Heights and Belton.

In 2007, the city’s property tax rate was set at 69.50 cents per $100.

Meanwhile, KISD has already assured an associated tax increase for its debt issue, with a steering committee-recommend price tag of $426 million. Together, the two bonds could significantly increase the typical Killeen resident’s total property tax rate of $2.497 per $100.

Alongside the city and school district, property tax is levied by Bell County, the Bell County Road Division, the Clearwater Underground Water Conservation District, Central Texas College and Bell County Water Control and Improvement District No. 6. Not all properties in Killeen are in the WCID No. 6 jurisdiction.

The city’s tax rate ranked 204th highest out of 1,214 municipalities in the state of Texas in 2016, according to the Texas Comptroller’s Office.

What if it doesn’t pass?

The worst-case scenario for the city would be a KISD bond passing while the city’s did not.

In that case, the city would have to scramble to identify funds for road infrastructure to reach KISD’s newest facilities while facing the increased likelihood of traffic jams in south Killeen.

On Chaparral Road, the city has projected the traffic from KISD’s planned facilities — including a possible sixth high school near the intersection of Chaparral and Featherline Road — would put around 4,000 drivers on the road at peak hours.

The road as currently constructed can accommodate only 2,000 vehicles in that time span, the city said.

While the council inquired on aid options for those projects, Director of Public Works David Olson warned Tuesday any possible funds would likely not be available before the district’s new high school went online in 2022.

“To be honest with you, relying on federal funding to address a need that’s on our timeline is not feasible,” he said.

The city currently has a proposal for Chaparral Road improvements filed with the Killeen-Temple Metropolitan Planning Organization, a clearinghouse for regional transportation projects applying for federal funding, but the project is not on the organization’s current three-year cycle.

The city also said it was pursuing funding options through the county — which owns the majority of Chaparral Road — and Harker Heights, which sends students into KISD schools, but David Olson said the county was experiencing similar funding issues for transportation projects.

Ron Olson said, simply, the city was not prepared for a school district bond to go before voters.

“We have worked to bring a balanced budget and set up long-term planning,” Ron Olson said. “What we’re talking about today immediately complicates that situation.”

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Alvin

This is the personal opinion of this writer.

@Kyle Blankenship: What I refer to as 'the front page' is the page that is generally shown on my computer when it first starts displaying the KDH News.com/
Killeen Daily Herald, with a scrolling mechanism at the top of the page. That is where I found the article that it is claimed, 'was not there'. It was there and when I copied the article, there was no date until after the fact, then it was removed and dated.
I can and know how to use the search page, because I have to use that page in which I can generally find a lot of my comments, but 'that is not where it was located'.
In comparison to what was reported 10 years ago, yes I do see that as 'pretty sparse reporting', but my inquiry was as to a full and extent report of the item. If that's all that was said then you were right in just giving a short paragraph. You were there, I was not.

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Alvin

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@Kyle Blankenship: 'I'm sorry, but this is the entire header that was on the page of your newspaper and it coincided with what was being discussed by the council. There was no date provided in the initial document, that was a later insert after the timing of my comment: Copy: 'Killeen council discusses protocol
Kevin M. Smith The Killeen Daily Herald' End of copy.

What was it doing on the front page if the writer hasn't worked for this newspaper in 10 years. Am I to assume that this newspaper does not keep a chronological log of what is current and what is old news????

If that was your comment:
Copy: 'Appointed an ad hoc committee to discuss an overhaul of city council meeting protocol. The committee will be comprised of council members Harris and Gregory Johnson and chaired by Councilman Juan Rivera.' End of copy.

Was that the total amount of comment concerning this ad hoc committee????
Pretty sparse reporting.

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Staff
Kyle Blankenship

You can use a detailed search to show articles that are newer. It's not on the front page, it's on the search page. The entire content of their conversation on protocol was to appoint the ad hoc committee. You can rewatch the meeting online if you think my reporting is scarce.

Alvin

This is the personal opinion of this writer.

I'll try one more time to get through that thick skull of yours, so here goes.

Speaking to the bond issue, both of them, I believe it has been said that, in an article that was first put out by the Killeen newspaper in their editorial section, by a man by the name of 'Wayne Lovett' in an article that was posted on Dec 3, 2017, and entitled 'Killeen reader criticizes KISD over proposed school bond issue', in which he stated the fact that this school system has not finished paying off the bond issue that was generated in 2002 and now this school system is asking the tax payer for another $426 million dollars which would increase the taxes on a property valued at $143,000 home would be $244 a year of increased taxes for 30 more years, and that is addition to a bond that the city is going to be asking for, to the tune of $46.1 million dollars.

This article goes on to say:
Copy: 'Here is what we get for our tax dollars. Three out of four high schools in the school district have  failed. Killeen, Ellison, and Shoemaker all have an F grade and are ranked among the lowest scoring of all Texas high schools.
The average yearly salary of superintendents in KISD is $248,000 per year. According to Wikipedia the average income per person in Killeen is $20,095 per year.' End of copy.

Now why would an individual, such as 'I', I don't to speak of anyone else, wish to pay an additional tax when one is presently in force, $98.72 million,
for another tax which will force the expenditure of say, $244 a year in tax.

What are you people thinking when it should be noted that, 'Hey, the first bond isn't paid off, so why in the world are you asking for additional bonds compounding our problem by asking for another, ever increasing bond???? Think about that will you....
Next on the agenda; another article, by Killeen Daily Herald and written by a Staff Reporter by the name of Kevin M. Smith entitled 'Killeen council discusses protocol' in which the contents of the discussion,
Copy: 'During a workshop Tuesday, City Attorney Kathy Davis discussed with the council proposed tweaks to the current policy.
Continuation of copy: 'Among the proposed changes is the definition of a citizen. The definition would no longer be only a person who lives in the city of Killeen but also would include individuals who work in Killeen. Davis said this would allow them to address the council during the citizens' petitions and information items on the council's meeting agendas.'
Continuation of copy: 'The changes would also place tougher restrictions on what people can say during the citizens' petitions and information time. The new provision would restrict comments
to those only related to city business.'

Now you say: '...BTW, most forums have rules and regulations, i.e. content, length, language, etc, for members speaking. You are a great example of why rules such as these are needed.'

Now I call your attention to the forum that was called then mayor Hancock, in the $750,000 dollar escapade in which this money can only be thought of as 'Hush Money' as he has never divulged what this money was for, it was conducted by a 'secret council meeting' that was not published, and in which this mayor Hancock made the statement that 'only 3 minutes would be entitled for the audience, but he gave the council members almost 20 minutes each to ramble on by just about every thing under the sun, and I know because I attended that meeting.
Another instance was by a audience member complaining for our illustrious mayor, Jose Segarra, stopping a member of the audience, on a time basis. Why. Why do you say that 'BTW, most forums have rules and regulations for such items as content, length, language, etc, for members speaking????
Why does the article go on to say, by City Attorney Kathy Davis the content of proposed 'tweaks' that are only meant to 'undermine the audience as to what is going to be allowed to be said during open sessions of the city council, thus closing the door on open session discussions. And I would also like to point out that apparently at least these two individuals, reporting on the same council meeting, but the coverage afforded by the Killeen Daily Herald by Staff Writer, Kyle Blankenship, the coverage on the same meeting was one paragraph:
Copy: 'Appointed an ad hoc committee to discuss an overhaul of city council meeting protocol The meeting will be comprised of council members Harris and Gregory Johnson and chaired by Juan Rivera.'

How can the same meeting have such diverging coverage, and by the way, the article by Kyle Blankenship is the only one that was and is still in publication, the other one is lost to the historical files. Why is that do you figure???? And it goes on and on.

Copy: 'You "sure should be looking over your shoulder".
The "thought police" didn't make that statement, you did. You reply to my question by saying, "Why would view anything I say as a 'threat'. (?)
...Simply put, because words have meaning. End of copy.

To use your phrase, 'Simply put': 'Yes words have meaning and that through the delineation of speech is the purpose of my comment. You don't get anywhere if you not allowed to participate in communication. It takes two people to have a meaningful conversation, one is the speaker of conversation and the other is a listener to that conversation. I want to expose the ones that are trying to delineate and undermine what people can say without being in constant fear. The city administration apparently 'has a fear' that someone will say something concurrent to what this city administration policies, and I called out our city attorney for destroying the paperwork, shredding documentation that could have been used in the $394,000 dollar city audit. I made reference to 'what was to be done in that case???? I imagine that this woman will not suffer any detrimental action by the now city manager Ron Olsen for an action that was detrimental to this city audit. And this is just one illustration of how this administrative group works.

I sincerely hope that this will satisfy you in what I am attempting to do and where I am going with what I am writing in this newspaper.

I am against this bond proposal simply for the fact that 'this document does not portend to present anything beneficial. The city bond, for the reasoning that this bond is for the sole measure of promoting growth outside of the city limits so it will not benefit the citizens of Killeen and can sometimes be a negative factor on people that are living in other parts of the city.

Yes I am after changes to be made in the way our city council works, the fact that it only takes 4 of the 7 members of the city council to completely 'control this town, that by allowing the KEDC to operate as an independent entity that can administer contract negotiations and further cause this city to any consequential damages, such as the chemical plant that will have concentrated Sulfuric Acid that if such a condition would happen in that if a PSV, which all vessels are required to have, should blow, the concentration of Sulfuric Acid would pollute the surrounding areas. This is just one case. I am after the council to decease operation of all city council so that this body would be completely isolated from the KEDC, and to further require that should a vote be introduced in the city council, that those members that are currently on the board of the KEDC not be allowed to vote thus bringing the voting members to 5. Either that or I would suggest that this council be changed to a major majority requiring 6 out of the 7 sitting council members be required for all actions by the city council. And it goes on and on.

This I think would 'throw a monkey wrench into the way this city administrative group functions'.

I hope that I have sufficiently answered your inquiry.

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Staff
Kyle Blankenship

Kevin Smith hasn't worked for this newspaper in nearly a decade. The story you're referring to about council protocol is from September 2007, not December 2017. There was only one story from the council meeting Tuesday.

Alvin

This is the personal opinion of this writer.
@dailymajor: Why would view anything that I write as a 'Threat'. I in no way am a threat to you or yours, but apparently 'the thought police just may be'.

Look at what transcribed in last nights city council meeting, and I am referring to the outcome of the council meeting in which it was announced in an article entitled 'Killeen council discusses protocol by Kevin M. Smith The Killeen Daily Herald', posted last night, December 5, 2017.

Copy: 'During a workshop Tuesday, City Attorney Kathy Davis discussed with the council proposed tweaks to the current policy.'
Continuation of copy: 'The changes would also place tougher restrictions on what people can say during the citizens' petitions and information time. The new provision would restrict comments
to those only related to city business.' End of copy.

Should this country, this city be going to a state of fear that is uttered by an individual???? I say not, but apparently there are those that fear the spoken word.

I asked the question: 'What about 'freedom of speech???? You now have placed restrictions on what a 'citizen' can talk on. I ask you, 'who is going to be the person who gets to decide what is acceptable and what is not. This could possibly drag the meeting out because of the arbitrators role in selecting 'what is and what is not acceptable'. Who is going to get the opportunity to fill the role as arbitrator, the king, or queen of the spoken word. Will it be our illustrious mayor, Jose Segarra, or our city manager, Ron Olsen, or maybe it will be the legal department head Kathy Davis who gets to fill this roll. I guess we will have to just wait and see.
@dailymajor: No, you do not have to fear me as I contest the funding of this city and this city's school system, for I will always be against the ways in which money is accosted from each and everyone's of us by the rules, regulations, and laws by which this nation was founded. No you do not have anything to fear from this individual, but I guess others do and are now trying to dissuade, to restrict others from uttering the spoken word.

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dailymajor

You "sure should be looking over your shoulder".
The "thought police" didn't make that statement, you did. You reply to my question by saying, "Why would view anything I say as a 'threat'. (?)
...Simply put, because words have meaning.
....People do recognize, as you say, your "expressive" way of writing. It will be long winded and rambling.
...BTW, most forums have rules and regulations, i.e. content, length, language,etc, for members speaking. You are a great example of why rules such as these are needed.

Alvin

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@ daily major: You seem to want to vary off the subject when you can't think of anything cute to say:

Copy: 'Just be sure to watch your grammar, punctuation, and "facts". End of copy.

You don't have to worry about my grammar, punctuation and facts. Maybe they won't satisfy a grammarian as you apparently are, but people will get the meaning of my comments. And again, people will know 'the expressive style' of my message, so you don't have to worry about my style, but you sure should be looking over your shoulder,

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dailymajor

Alvin, just what do you mean when you say, " you sure should be looking over your shoulder"? Is that a threat?

dailymajor

Some of these posts are almost funny, but not quite. Just be sure to watch your grammar, punctuation, and "facts".

Now, continue the rants and verbosity. Rant on.

Alvin

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@majordaily: Copy: 'One word'. End of copy.

Yes I thought We, you and I, should drop back and how your comprehension absorbs the one word. Next week we'll double up to two words.

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SnowWhiteNthe7Thieves

SCHLECTHY -aka- THE JOURNEY.....-aka-....SCAM

SnowWhiteNthe7Thieves

Thug, Alvin, Eye, & Cher; you people understand the latest caper the SCAMMERS are trying to pull. Yes, @THUG, I remember that JOURNEY aka FLEECING. Millions and millions of dollars of taxpayer money went MISSING. MISeducators and their leaders went to LUXURY resorts, first class airline tickets, meals at Ruths Chris, Mortons, Lawrys, etc, massages, God knows exactly what those thieves actually spent. This newspaper investigated, but even their reporters never discovered the full story. Eventually, the CHIEF in THIEF, Hawkins, slithered off to Georgia to spend time with grandkids, the lie of the politician thief. Then we learn Hawkins had bamboozled some school district in Georgia and was suddenly STUPIDINTENDENT again. Yes, SCHLECHLTY became their scam of choice, too. The Journey, watch your wallets, because when you give these THIEVES money, they spend it on everything but YOUR kids. MISEDUCATION at its worse. Besides, we all know more money doesn't mean better education for your kids. I got out of KILLeen and the KISD and their evil ability ot steal MY money. If you can, I suggest you get, too.

THUGNIFICENT KILLED ME

If you've been around the KILLeen area for a few years, you might remember the GENIUS KISD hired, Dr, Hawkins. He took the district and the tazpayers on THE JOURNEY.

......................../// KDH /// documents the START of THE JOURNEY here: http://kdhnews.com/news/article_c5a934a1-1ac4-54da-b7e1-7dcb5d1b08b7.html
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Now the current so called LEADERS want to take you on a SEVEN HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR JOURNEY, aka, FLEECING.

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I've got one word for you, if you don't wanna be fleeced, NO, HELL NO.
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Thank you very much KISD leaders.

dailymajor

One word?

SnowWhiteNthe7Thieves

Two words for you today, mate, GOD BLESS!

Alvin

This is the personal opinion of this writer.

@dailymajor: Well it seems you are suffering from an acute case of 'Hoof In Mouth', again.

To wit, 'Nobody has said anything about the intelligence of Dr. Craft nor the school board, nor the 'select committee' he had reason to select from'.

But I dare say that the people of this city can and will choose a source of information once it is presented to them as to whether or not they want to fund this city's $46 million dollar bond issue that is to support homes that are being built outside of the city limits, and can 'make up their own minds whether or not to vote for the bond issue that should be forthcoming by the city, some of them at least the ones on the city council that were permitted into the inner, inner, circle, to learn of such things, and also make up their minds as to whether or not they want to succumb to a 'very large, not so well defined $426 million dollar bond issue'.

I imagine this will end up in the 'back page trash where so many of the things I write are posted, so @eyewatchingu: please if you want to, present in Facebook just what this city is trying to do in the KISD bond and the city of Killeen's bond proposal and what the elevated tax structure will be. I'm sure the millions upon millions of people that are scattered across this country will be enthralled, especially if the @dailymajor prints some of his 'pearls of wisdom' to be viewed with the Facebook crowd.

Regardless, the citizens of the Killeen deserve to know just what the city has in store for them along with the KISD school committee and Dr. Craft. You notice that I have not said a disparaging word about the school board committee nor Dr. Craft. Can you say the same about your comments???? It's your turn again to continue with this ludicrous banter if you wish.

@SnowWhiteNthe7Thieves: and @eyewatchingu: All I can say referring to @dailymajor; 'Don't sweat the small poop'. Continue on with your postings.

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dailymajor

Poop? Really? lol...I see I can't possibly match your maturity level, intellectualism, absolute facts, and verbosity, so...carry on your rant.

dailymajor

I surely didn't realize that we a had a few select citizens that were so much more intelligent than Dr. Craft and the school board and are more aware of the needs of over 44,000 students , 50 campuses, 6000 teachers and personnel, and had more knowledge about how to handle budgets in the millions of dollars.... I feel certain that they know much more than the "criminals" and "thugs" alluded to by Snow White...who are "miseducating" our children and just don't care about them....Everybody knows that all the teachers and everyone else in Killeen ISD just don't care about the kids. What is the big deal about having a great school system and giving educations to thousands of kids, anyway? My gosh. So silly,

SnowWhiteNthe7Thieves

Intelligence you say. I say that MIGHT violate the terms of this fine paper because you're calling US names. Insults aren't allowed on the site of KDH. Why don't you try obeying simple rules, like the rest of us do?

I insult, not will I insult anyone.

I just disagree with the the latest HALF a BILLION dollar scam, which is the oNLY thing that keeps them at bay. THEY, our beters, must ask our permission to get their hands on ONE HALF a BILLION of our dollars!!!!! Thank God for Texas' constitution.

dailymajor

You said I called you names? Where would that be?..and...You say this after you called the people running KISD "thugs"? Really?

eyewatchingu

@Alvin and everyone that is going to vote NO on these bonds. WE need to get a start on fighting against this. Maybe getting people to make signs Vote NO on school and city bonds. Get them to start putting them in their front yards. We need to start our own facebook Vote No Campaign going.
We can start a cell phone campaign though facebook as well.

Let me know what you all think, and I can start up a facebook page for this.
From all the comments on Facebook I have counted over 200 people that will vote no, so I have a feeling we can out number them in the long run if we get the info out to the people. From flyers and so on, even door to door.
We need to talk to everyone. Get our voices heard. Its not fair they will have city and tax payer money to use to promote there side. Its time we stand up.

eyewatchingu

@Alvin, Cherber and snowwhitenthe7thives
I agree with all of you.
To me this is a scam, one that always pops up when people are running for dist rep and higher that are from this area. It seems we always come up with money missing around these time. I think these are scams used to fund and pad certain peoples campaigns.
I also feel these are scams to get money for those that enjoy living high on the hog, so they can keep their family and so called friends in the Kingdom.

They remind me of those church's they tell followers to pay their tides ( donations) Because they tell them the more tides they pay the wider the gates open.

The worst part is, the fact they have know ideal of what this is going to coast. Any other city or state would have rules on this, where to bring this to a bond they would have to have plans, blue prints and a total amount of all items listed. Itemized list of wants. Yet it seems this city nor KISD understand how to plan.
My ex husband owned a construction company back home. He built top end houses, even then not one person ever came and said to him build the house and then I will pay you. Instead they told him what they wanted and he would spend his time locked in his office drawing up blue prints, and pricing everything . From the nails, dry wall, wood even a estimate of eclectic wiring and so on. Then he would bring it to them and they would look at it, that is when people will add and remove things. Heck even in the middle of a build people add and remove things. So my question is why are we not seeing anything like this.

So I ask you to ask yourself, would any honest builder or contractor not have blue prints and a itemized cost list? Would you build a home with out a itemized list and Blue prints?

Would a bank loan any one any money with out knowing or seeing the cost of something first. No a bank would demand on seeing blueprints and an itemized list. It would be bad business if they would not and it would be a risky loan to just hand someone money with out a plan.

So vote NO, Vote No and send the message they will no longer cheat, steal and eat off the backs of hard working Killeen citizens.

Alvin

This is the personal opinion of this writer.

In my personal opinion, this city, and to a large part, the major developers have continued to keep this city and it's citizens, 'in the dark' as to what future developments will be. It's commonly referred to as 'the mushroom syndrome', kept in the dark and fed 'poop'.

Copy: 'Those projects, by city-assigned priority, include:
• Expansion of Chaparral Road from two to five lanes — $21.5 million
• Expansion of East Trimmier Road south of Stagecoach Road from two to five lanes — $7 million
• Expansion of West Trimmier Road between Stagecoach and Chaparral roads from two to five lanes — $7.9 million
• Expansion of Featherline Road between Stagecoach and Chaparral roads from two to five lanes — $9 million
The total cost for all four projects — the baseline principal amount for a proposed bond — is $45.6 million.
What the city has not yet disclosed, in part because the council has not yet discussed it, are any other projects that will be included in the bond proposal.' End of copy.

What I would like to know is: 'What part of this city's new construction includes the following:
Comments borrowed from a previous article:

Copy: 'The city’s plans show the proposed project would extend Rosewood Drive 0.6 miles from its current dead end at Riverstone Drive to Chaparral Road as a four-lane roadway with a continuous turn lane. Both sides of the road will have sidewalks, There will also be acceleration and deceleration lanes to increase safety at intersections, according to David Olson, Killeen director of Public Works.
A 284-foot-long bridge would be built across Trimmier Creek as part of the project.' End of copy.

Which one of the presently directed funds will include the '284 foot bridge'????? That is not addressed in the present document.

Copy: 'Olson said Tuesday the city and district had been in discussion on possible bond issues “for months,” but council members seemed surprised by the sudden proposal from the city.
Councilman Gregory Johnson said it appeared the city was being “dragged along” by KISD’s bond proposal.'

Continuation of copy: 'However, Councilman Jonathan Okray said Tuesday the council needed to be decisive and not ignore the city’s seemingly inevitable growth to the south.
“What’s happening is reality is happening,” Okray said. “It’s called growth.”
Councilwoman Debbie Nash-King said the city needed to identify a solution immediately.
“The elephant is out,” she said. “KISD has come to our home and told us what’s coming.”
The last time the city issued a voter-approved bond was in 2002, the same year the district last issued its own bond package.' End of copy.

In response to these comments I would say: 'to councilman Okray: Progress should not be on the shoulders of it's citizens, it should be maintained at a growth pattern that is consistent within it's proposed tax rate structure'. This has not been the case within this city's city manager/city council form of government at least since the year 2000 and based on it's economic structure, since the year 1990 when this council 'gave' the corporate structure to the KEDC in a mandate in which the KEDC was permitted to have control over the city's economy by giving the KEDC the authority to enter into contracts in which the city of Killeen would be liable, and for that service the city continually agrees to payments to the KEDC amounting to hundreds of thousands of dollars each year and for which it is a money producing organization. This then encompasses the forward looking 'growth pattern of the city of Killeen, on the shoulders of it's citizens'.

And to councilwoman Debbie Nash-King I would say, 'It is not a city problem, it's a lack of continued growth and being able to function within the established guidelines. A city and it's associated school district should not 'wait' from 2002 until 2017 for instructional/institutional guidelines and then say, 'we cannot get by without a $426 million to $700 million dollar bond issue, to say to the citizens of this city 'KISD has come to our home and told us what’s coming.' I would then that 'Which came first, the Chicken or the egg'. If a city does not or has not kept up with a growth pattern that allows for the income, from all sources, to be consistent with the growth of that city, then this city should not continue to call on it's citizens for additional funding, or to put it another way, this city should not be considered as a 'cash cow for the city's administrative group'.

Copy: 'Councilman Jim Kilpatrick feared that if the city did not raise its property tax to stay consistent with its new polices, it would immediately put the city on bad footing with residents.
“We’re going to speak double-talk to our citizens,” Kilpatrick said Tuesday.'

Continuation of copy: 'Despite the reworked policy, a bond issue in May could put some of its stipulations in jeopardy from the start.
The city’s policy would push the city to keep level or decrease the percentage of its property tax rate dedicated to debt service to a goal of 25 percent. The city’s current percentage dedicated to debt service is 34.2 percent.
That means if the council proposed a bond in May, it will come with a property tax rate increase to be compliant with internal policy. Without a dollar figure, its unknown what the associated tax rate increase could be.
Continuation of copy: 'The city already has one of the highest property tax rates — 74.98 cents per $100 of taxable value — in a group of 12 comparable municipalities, according to city records.' End of copy.

This city council, spearheaded by councilman Jim Kilpatrick, pushed through a policy that 'would push the city to keep level or decrease the percentage of its property tax rate dedicated to debt service to a goal of 25 percent. The city’s current percentage dedicated to debt service is 34.2 percent.'

Copy:: 'That means if the council proposed a bond in May, it will come with a property tax rate increase to be compliant with internal policy. Without a dollar figure, its unknown what the associated tax rate increase could be.'

Continuation of copy: 'Councilman Jim Kilpatrick feared that if the city did not raise its property tax to stay consistent with its new polices, it would immediately put the city on bad footing with residents.' End of copy.

To this I say to councilman Jim Kilpatrick: 'DUH'. And this from the councilman who said in times past, and I paraphrase here: 'I don't want to be checking on our city manager'.

Copy: 'The worst-case scenario for the city would be a KISD bond passing while the city’s did not.
In that case, the city would have to scramble to identify funds for road infrastructure to reach KISD’s newest facilities while facing the increased likelihood of traffic jams in south Killeen.' End of copy.

In this case, I would say, 'defeat both of them and keep our tax structure the same'.

Why is it the responsibility of the tax payers of placing the burden for maintaining or improving the city streets that will be used by residents that are located outside of the city limits???? We have enough burden placed on the shoulders of city limit dwellers, why continue to increase these debts.

I say vote 'NO' on all bond issues that spring up out of the blue. It can be restarted by a lot more 'Transparency in government starting with the city of Killeen'.

This has been the personal opinion of this writer and nothing shall be used, in context or without or changed in any way without first notifying, and receiving explicit approval from this writer.
One of the 4.58 % who voted.

Cherbear

I am saying No on both of them. The city can't be trusted and neither can the school district.

SnowWhiteNthe7Thieves

Taxpayers within the KISD miseducation area need to only know ONE word to protect their wallet, bank account, and property tax bill.

The word is NO, vote NO to anymore scams instituted by KISD.

Its just another money grab, for pie in the sky lies.

The thugs running KISD only need you when they want your money.

Your children, especially special ed children are miseducated.

BULLYING is allowed, and if you complain, they shoo you and your child away.

Now they pretend to care about you, but as soon as they get enough YES', they no longer know you.

Again, vote NO, but if you vote YES, and after they secure the loot, they'll simply tell you to "F" off, again.

They'll just body slam more kids, and cover up more sexual abuse of YOUR children by some of their MISeducators.

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