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Killeen moves forward with single-stream recycling

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Posted: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:30 am

Tensions ran high at Tuesday night’s Killeen City Council workshop meeting over the city’s lucrative recycling contract.

City staff presented the council with its plan to implement a citywide single-stream recycling program, which will allow residents to put their recyclables in one can rather than separating them before placing the bin curbside like the current program.

The council did not take any action regarding the matter, but it did reach a consensus to allow City Manager Glenn Morrison to enter into contract negotiations with Balcones.

Requests for proposals were sent out Sept. 1. The city received proposals from four companies — Balcones Resources, Centex Metals, Texas Disposal Systems and WILCO Recycling. The city recommended the council endorse Balcones.

Scott Osburn, public works director, said Centex Metals withdrew its contract this week.

The city also presented the council with a proposed fee structure at its Jan. 14 meeting that includes residents receiving a 96-gallon trash cart and a 96-gallon recycle cart for $20.89 per month, but the rate is pending the city completing a rate study and solid waste master plan.

Councilman Jonathan Okray said he thinks the city should complete the rate study before the council is asked to endorse a provider.

“I think we are about to buy the car without knowing how much it’s going to cost,” he said. “We are talking about a rate study. We don’t know how much it is going to cost. The rate study is going to tell us how much it will truly cost.”

Mayor Dan Corbin told Okray that didn’t “make any sense.”

Councilman Jared Foster said he believes the city is going about the process in the right way.

“(A) rate study is primarily concerned with determining the retail price of solid waste collection and what we are going to have to charge,” he said. “The selection of a provider in the (request for proposal) process is something that we have to do first so that we can determine what the actual costs are going to be to us, so that we can know what our options are.”

Okray raised his hand to ask a question as Corbin was taking a consensus. Okray said the move was “so awkward” because he had his hand up to ask a question “before the consensus.”

Councilman Steve Harris called a point of order, which was overruled by Corbin who said it was moot because the consensus had already been taken.

“My point of order was that (Okray) had a question and (Corbin) bypassed his question to take a consensus before he got an opportunity to ask his question,” Harris said.

Corbin said once a contract is negotiated and a rate study completed, then the council will make decisions regarding cart options and fee structures.

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6 comments:

  • Jared Foster posted at 1:53 am on Sun, Feb 9, 2014.

    Jared Foster Posts: 4

    nulisecundus,

    I am regretful to learn that you feel that way about me. I don't know that I will be able to change your mind, but permit me to put forth the following evidence to the contrary.

    http://kdhnews.com/news/killeen-council-nears-vote-on-future-land-use-map/article_66996174-1036-11e2-9ff4-0019bb30f31a.html

    http://kdhnews.com/news/article_a13f00a0-fd5c-11e1-b03d-0019bb30f31a.html?TNNoMobile

    http://kdhnews.com/news/developers-unhappy-with-new-killeen-zoning-rules/article_fae4c154-1291-11e2-bcc6-0019bb30f31a.html?TNNoMobile

    http://kdhnews.com/news/council-discusses-city-planning-issues/article_6ceb4e28-45ad-11e2-8ada-001a4bcf6878.html?TNNoMobile

    http://kdhnews.com/news/killeen-council-to-vote-on-mud-tuesday/article_acec938e-83c3-11e2-b177-001a4bcf6878.html?TNNoMobile

    http://kdhnews.com/news/killeen-city-council-says-no-to-mud/article_674f701e-861e-11e2-844a-0019bb30f31a.html?TNNoMobile

    I readily admit I am not perfect, but I would at least like to answer for my actual flaws than my fictitious ones. Mayor Corbin will be more than happy to highlight for you the occasions on which my behavior wasn't too pleasing.

    Respectfully,

    Jared


     
  • Jared Foster posted at 1:47 am on Sun, Feb 9, 2014.

    Jared Foster Posts: 4

    Viktor,

    I'm not sure that the good old network is particularly interested in the issue of single-stream recycling. The firm that we will be negotiating with to determine cost is from Austin and, to my knowledge, has no ties to anyone in the area. If you know of a hidden beneficiary in this matter do not keep it to yourself.

    I'm sorry that you feel that we're not making informed decisions. Please bear in mind that negotiations with Balcones may prove unproductive, and even if they are successful the rate study might still find that a rate increase is minimal like it was for the city of Temple. Note as well that council ultimately has the option to pay down a portion of the capital investment with cash to further reduce stress on solid waste rates. I would be in favor of this.

    I can read that you are confident enough to know that all recycling, everywhere, pays for itself and that we will not need to increase fees, unequivocally. I am honestly not that confident so I will wait for the rate study to tell me what you already know.

    I don't know if there's anything I can do to prove to you after two years that I work for the city and not anyone else...but I am willing to try. You can call me at the phone # listed on the city's website--I promise you that though it is unpopular, my position on this matter is purely motivated by economics. We are running out of space, and we need to achieve economic sustainability (ecological sustainability can be argued elsewhere but it is not for me) before we find ourselves contracting with an even farther landfill, with even higher gas bills.

    As to whether I simply go along with the status quo at all times, I would ask that you see my reply to nulisecundus below.

     
  • Viktor posted at 6:26 pm on Wed, Feb 5, 2014.

    Viktor Posts: 317

    Corbin as usual strong arms those he doesn't agree with.Too bad Jared claimed to be on council in the name of positive change yet goes along with the the good old network. Jared needs to move to a bigger city & open that bookstore he's talked about. Hard to believe that any one would be against a cost analysis prior to choosing the vendor. We may as well have cavemen on city council if educated people can't make well informed decisions. Recycling should pay for itself if done right so any fee increase to residents is unnecessary.

     
  • nulisecundus posted at 11:33 am on Wed, Feb 5, 2014.

    nulisecundus Posts: 105

    I for one am very happy Corbin will not run again. also Jared foster needs to go. he is also. the mayors " BOY".so recycling is mandatory, ok so is obamacare, pay or else. if the city forces us to recycle, I for one will not pay any additional fees on my bill.

     
  • Eliza posted at 10:43 am on Wed, Feb 5, 2014.

    Eliza Posts: 835

    Be thankful Elections are coming and some of the ones who never wanted to go about council rules in the proper manner, but wanted to show constantly that they were top dog,
    will be flushed from the system.
    Hopefully never to appear in public office again.

    We have to have reps who have common sense, the questioning of how the tax payers money is to be spent ,before it is promised to be spent, is common sense thinking. That comes not from years of education per se .
    But plain old common sense. Its a good thing.

     
  • Alvin posted at 9:12 am on Wed, Feb 5, 2014.

    Alvin Posts: 208

    I seem to be amazed at what this city council is willing to do. If Okray raised his hand to ask a question, then he should have been allowed to ask the question. I ask the question, did the mayor ask to find out if there was any further discussion on this subject, in which Okray raised his hand, then the mayor was, I think, obligated to give the floor to Okray.

    Copy: Okray raised his hand to ask a question as Corbin was taking a consensus. Okray said the move was “so awkward” because he had his hand up to ask a question “before the consensus.”
    Councilman Steve Harris called a point of order, which was overruled by Corbin who said it was moot because the consensus had already been taken.
    “My point of order was that (Okray) had a question and (Corbin) bypassed his question to take a consensus before he got an opportunity to ask his question,” Harris said. End of copy.

    As to this 'catch 22', Copy: Councilman Jared Foster said he believes the city is going about the process in the right way.
    “(A) rate study is primarily concerned with determining the retail price of solid waste collection and what we are going to have to charge,” he said. “The selection of a provider in the (request for proposal) process is something that we have to do first so that we can determine what the actual costs are going to be to us, so that we can know what our options are.” End of copy. To me, this is like a dog or cat chasing it's own tail, it's never ending. How can you set the price for a process, recycle materials, if you haven't received a value of what it is worth? There is a wide variance as to the value of the materials, collectables, and what that value will be in return to the city. But this is never discussed, the return to the city coffers.

    Copy: The city also presented the council with a proposed fee structure at its Jan. 14 meeting that includes residents receiving a 96-gallon trash cart and a 96-gallon recycle cart for $20.89 per month, but the rate is pending the city completing a rate study and solid waste master plan. End of copy.

    Now it is determined that not only is the city flagrant in completing the rate study, but also 'the solid waste master plan. What else is missing?
    What about the vote of the city?

     

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