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Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:13 am

Killeen Police vehicles lined the inside median of U.S. Highway 190 at the Rosewood Overpass construction site Thursday morning where speed limits were recently decreased by 5 miles per hour — from 60 to 55 mph.

Starting at 6:30 a.m. around seven police cruisers and three motorcycles engaged in continuous traffic stops, said Tony Binion, service manager at Caliber Collision, who had been watching the traffic stops all morning.

"It boggles my mind that people don't get it. You have to do the speed limit," Binion said."(The police) don't even turn off their engines. Thirty seconds and boom they're gone."

The stretch of U.S. 190 under enforcement, between Stan Schlueter Loop and the Harker Heights city limits, is set to see two major improvements over the next two years.

Both the $23 million Rosewood Overpass project and the $55 million U.S. 190 widening project are expected to be completed by fall of 2015.

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  • cz14 posted at 2:11 pm on Mon, Jul 8, 2013.

    cz14 Posts: 36


  • Fireman posted at 8:55 am on Wed, Jul 3, 2013.

    Fireman Posts: 1

    The title to this article is "Speed trap..." no such thing as a speed trap; if you are following the posted speed limit then you will not be stopped. A construction zone is just a dangerous as a school zone for drivers and pedestrians (workers) in the area. Just a few weeks prior there was a construction worker killed in Dallas by injuries he sustained from someone "driving" through the construction zone.

    As drivers we are basically signing a contract with the state of Texas that we will follow the rules of the road. (Signing the application for the DL) when we violate the "contract" there are penalties (fines).

    I cannot say that I have not sped through areas myself, but I am saying that especially when KPD advertised that they would be out in full force in that area the drivers should have been aware of that!!! Drivers should be cautious of the construction zone regardless so that incidents do not occur like that in Dallas.

    Studies have shown that speed does kill! I have been on numerous traffic incidents in my 14 years as an emergency service worker and the incidents with higher speed typically the patients sustain more injuries.

    I drove through the area that morning and it was an interesting sight to see all of them lined up and several on traffic stops in the area. There could have been numerous more tickets issued as I did see several drivers pass by the officers on traffic stops at the posted speed. The law states that if an emergency service worker is on the side of the road with lights activated that if a driver passes in the lane closest to the emergency service worker then their speed should be reduced 20 miles under the speed limit. Officers were not enforcing that; they were however attempting to protect the construction workers that are striving to expand our highway.

  • dailydriver posted at 8:47 am on Wed, Jul 3, 2013.

    dailydriver Posts: 1

    I for one am happy to see them out there I travel 190 twice a day and some people just don't get it ! The posted speed limit is there to protect the workers, however some people have no concern for anyone but themselves and do not obey the warning signs.
    I only wish KPD would do the same thing at night I was west bound on 190 at 11 pm yesterday in the 55 mph zone a car passes me going about 80 and just kept that speed going. For those of you who think its a money making thing for the city just look at all the accidents they have between Willow Springs exit and Harker Heights and you will understand why they do this!

  • Long time DAWG Fan posted at 4:00 pm on Tue, Jul 2, 2013.

    Long time DAWG Fan Posts: 2

    Why would you Brandon James refer to the law enforcement action as a "speed trap"?

    Didn't the KPD announce on TV and in the Herald they would be conducting traffic enforcement in that area?

    I bet no one got a ticket that was not speeding.

  • Bubba posted at 12:09 pm on Sun, Jun 30, 2013.

    Bubba Posts: 844

    Most drivers, when they see a police vehicle, stomp on their brake, no matter how fast they are going. The result is a wreck, caused by a bad driver stomping on the brake on the highway, usually while illegally blocking the left hand lane.

  • SirNose posted at 6:10 pm on Fri, Jun 28, 2013.

    SirNose Posts: 23

    What I do not understand is that in Killeen the police will tell where and when they will be out in force looking for violators. They have done it the Willow Springs exit to catch people cutting thru 7-11. They have done it on Clear Creek to catch speeders in front of Metroplex. Now they are doing it on 190. So even after letting the public know where and when a "sting" is set-up, they still catch people doing wrong. Just imagine if the police were out there doing there job daily in these areas all the violators that would be caught. When KDH ran the article about the speed being changed for the construction on 190 I thought, "Good Luck" with any kind of enforcement. It seems that speed limit signs are just a recommendation. Do whatever speed you want. Most drivers do for the most part.

  • Wacobones posted at 10:50 pm on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    Wacobones Posts: 2

    Thanks for your thoughts. Just so you know, I was going to the hospital. My "sign on" name is not Wacobones because I drive a motorcycle with a skull&bones tattoo on my chest. I haven't had an accident in over 20 years and have traveled well over a million miles. Bottom line: I'm a safe driver.
    If you read the article, the speed limit has recently changed. Also, if you'll do some research, you'll find much of Texas is what is called Presumed Speed Limit - “Presumed” speed-limit violations are a little more complicated but give you far more flexibility in building your defense. In states that use this system for all or some of their roads—California and Texas, for example—it’s legal to drive over the posted limit as long as you are driving safely. For example, if you are driving 50 mph in a 40-mph zone, you are “presumed” to be speeding. But if it is 6 a.m. on a clear, dry morning with no other cars on a wide, straight road, and you can convince the judge that you were driving safely given those conditions, you should be acquitted. That’s because you present facts that “rebut the presumption” that by going over the limit you were driving at an unsafe speed.
    I totally agree that unsafe driving is bad. But I've also seen people who don't speed that are horrible, unsafe, and inconsiderate drivers. You are assuming that speed and being unsafe are one in the same.
    You're also assuming that officers don't make mistakes or exert unnecessary authority. You might want to do some research in that arena as well.
    Lastly, stealing is illegal. Maybe you have never taken a borrowed pen, or not returned some extra change back to the Walmart cashier, or took some extra condiments from your favorite fast food restaurant, or any number of acquisitions that are not truly yours. If that's the case, you are fooling yourself or truly extraordinary. Should they place police officers at the end of cash register lines and see if you catch a "correct change" mistake and then cite you for it?
    With regards to the construction people being happy about police presence; you should be totally aware that police cars and accidents all over the highway create tension and rubbernecking. Traffic flow is hindered and usually causes secondary accidents. So much for protecting the construction workers!!!
    There are such things as Speed Traps and some are illegal. Searching a person or property illegally will get evidence thrown out of court. I am currently in conversations with some lawyers to verify that what they are doing is legal.

    I'll be back for another round tomorrow.

  • Baylor posted at 10:00 pm on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    Baylor Posts: 197

    If the sign says 55 mph THEN proceed at 55 mph and you have no problems, correct? Now, on the other side of the issue, this is KIlleen man! Fast cars, cold beer, and crazies on every block.

  • Cherbear posted at 7:57 pm on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    Cherbear Posts: 18

    That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard about it being a "abuse of power". If you have a license then you must of taken a written test and learned the rules of the road. If a person can not read and understand a speed limit sign then they should not be on the road to begin with. Drivers obeying the law will have no problems with the police presence on the highways and roads. I am sure the men and women working on the contruction of the roads were happy to see the police there. I was happy to see the police there. I drive the speed limit in the outside lane and still have people tailgating me and others flying past. They are a hazard to my safety as well.

  • barbie500 posted at 7:49 pm on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    barbie500 Posts: 162

    I'm sorry you got caught speeding, however it you are paying attention to the road you wouldn't have gotten a ticket. I think they should be out there every day and giving tickets to the people who are going 70 in a 60 mile zone, it is the law. However most everyone thinks they can go as fast as they want. What other laws do you break, what is the law you will not break? I was coming home today and going 40 miles per hour, which was the speed limit and this person whipped out aroung me, going like a bat out -ell and passed me. She should have gotten a ticket, there is no reason to be speeding, unless you are on your way to the hospital. Obey the law and you won't get a ticket, sorry but it's the law and I wish they would give out a lot more tickets and if it benefits the city, so be it.[smile]

  • Wacobones posted at 3:08 pm on Thu, Jun 27, 2013.

    Wacobones Posts: 2

    This is an abuse of power. I would be interested in how many of these officers will issue warnings to help the people understand the new speed change. There are so many signs on that part of the road, it's natural to maintain speed with others or what you've provably driven there for years. Instead, they will levy huge fines that will double because of construction. They appear to have gone from "Serve and Protect" to "Sit and Collect"!!!
    I met with the city prosecutor today and she said a psychology class she took said that a "punishment" (fine) was an effective deterrent. I say that they will probably add well over 100 tickets to the docket today with a DOUBLED fine that will probably bring in tens of thousands of dollars. Deterrent for us or incentive for them?
    The title to this article calls it a "speed trap", not a speed enforcement, not a speed safety group. They are lying in wait to pounce on the citizens of this community and I thinks it's cunning, deceptive, and an absolute abuse of power.

    Mike E.


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