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Hasan trial is moving fast, but appeals await

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Posted: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:30 am | Updated: 2:13 pm, Thu Jan 23, 2014.

Considering it took almost four years to bring accused Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Hasan to trial, it’s more than a little surprising that court proceedings in the court-martial could wrap up in the next three weeks.

This is especially true, since prosecutors originally estimated the trial would take up to three months to conclude.

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      10 comments:

      • Baylor posted at 3:33 pm on Wed, Aug 14, 2013.

        Baylor Posts: 103

        The rodeo clown with obamas face has gained more attention than the coward murderer in Killeen Texas.

         
      • Alvin posted at 3:46 pm on Tue, Aug 13, 2013.

        Alvin Posts: 98

        Thank you for this insight.

         
      • Bubba posted at 8:52 am on Tue, Aug 13, 2013.

        Bubba Posts: 602

        "Forfeitures of pay and allowances adjudged as part of a
        court-martial sentence, or occurring by operation of Article 58b
        are effective 14 days after the sentence is adjudged or when the
        sentence is approved by the convening authority, whichever is
        earlier."

        Rule 1003,UCMJ

         
      • Alvin posted at 8:32 am on Tue, Aug 13, 2013.

        Alvin Posts: 98

        Listening to the news last night, I thought I heard the newscaster saying something about 'after 14 days' and that's all I was able to hear. What did that newscaster say in completeness?

         
      • Alvin posted at 4:21 pm on Mon, Aug 12, 2013.

        Alvin Posts: 98

        @JCO312: Much obliged for that answer. I appreciate it.

         
      • Bubba posted at 12:07 pm on Mon, Aug 12, 2013.

        Bubba Posts: 602

        There is no doubt that the accused is guilty as soon as the verdict of guilty is announced by the court. Until then, the accused is presumed innocent and has rights. Upon a finding of guilt and imposition of a sentence that includes a forfeiture of pay, then the basic pay of the accused would stop.

        Prior to trial, in pre-trial restraint, it is a violation of the rights of the accused, as well as the UCMJ, to impose punishment such as forfeiture of pay.

         
      • JCO312 posted at 11:26 am on Mon, Aug 12, 2013.

        JCO312 Posts: 1

        Alvin, if MAJ Hasan were convicted his pay and allowances would not continue, even pending appeal.

         
      • Alvin posted at 5:41 am on Mon, Aug 12, 2013.

        Alvin Posts: 98

        I agree, there is no doubt that he is guilty, but what I am interested in is 'if he is found guilty, does his pay stop?' I believe he has continued to receive his salary all through this, almost 4 years now. It now amasses close to, if not already exceeding $200,000.00. Now why does it seem logical to; 1) continue a person's pay while he is not convicted of a crime, and 2) if found guilty, continue a person's pay if found guilty, but appealing the conviction. This could continue for a number of years. This is my question. What about it?

         
      • Pete posted at 11:02 am on Sun, Aug 11, 2013.

        Pete Posts: 97

        Give him an honorable discharge and a bus ticket to his home of record. Nature will take its course, whether it is because he no longer gets medical treatment for his paralysis or his is executed as he executed 13 others. Time, money and heartache for all involved saved and problem solved. Too late for that now though huh?

         
      • Bubba posted at 10:56 am on Sun, Aug 11, 2013.

        Bubba Posts: 602

        "It was apparent early on that Hasan’s guilt was never in doubt."

        this is the kind of stupid, uninformed comments in the local press that the accused will use in his appeal to escape the death penalty.

        Good job.

         

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