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Posted: Saturday, November 9, 2013 4:30 am

To the Editor:

“If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period.”

“If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period.

“No one will take it away, no matter what.”

— Barack Obama, speaking on June 15, 2009.

“Now, if you have or had one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law and you really liked that plan, what we said was you can keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law passed.”

— Barack Obama, Nov. 4, 2013.

Why is it so difficult for folks to call a lie a lie?

Misspoke? No.

Misrepresented? No.

Oversimplified? No.

Lies.

Plain and simple, our president lies.

How can so many continue to support a person who repeatedly is dishonest? He is in the most honored position that this nation can elect a person into: president of the United States! He represents our nation and citizens before the world. Are we really proud of this man? Is this the way we wish the world to view our nation?

This is not about Democrats, Republicans, Independents or tea party members. This is about doing what is right. How can it be right to distort the truth? To be dishonest? To hide facts?

Surely, no one can continue to ignore the continuous lies that flow from the mouth of this man!

“If you tell a lie often enough, people begin to believe it.” (Unknown)

L. D. Gautier

Killeen

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30 comments:

  • Killeen patriot posted at 3:07 pm on Fri, Nov 15, 2013.

    Killeen patriot Posts: 5

    I think we have forgotten, that it you can only lie if you are a republican or conservative. Obama is a liberal democrat, so the liberal media will never state he lied. They will do all they can to protect him. Also, yesterday is just one more time that the president has shown absolute disregard for the US constitution. He does not have the power to unilaterally change a law. Congress has to change laws. He should be impeached for this, but the democratice senate will never let this happen. If we want changes in America we have to make it at the ballot box. We need to start with replacing John Cornyn with a real conservative who cares about the people of Texas. It is clear that he cares more about pleasing his establishment republican buddies.

     
  • Eliza posted at 2:25 pm on Fri, Nov 15, 2013.

    Eliza Posts: 645

    @ Don't we feel relieved about that!?!

    Not as long as the same group is in charge handling the peoples private affairs, like health insurance.

    I really do think they believe they are the smartest guys and gals on the block. And the rest are just buffoons who are to do as the master says. No,that's only the low information group who either doesn't want to face reality or can't learn they're being played for fools.
    Knowledge is power, And the ones who haven't learned yet about what's going on, had better wise up quick.

     
  • Roody2 posted at 10:30 am on Fri, Nov 15, 2013.

    Roody2 Posts: 184

    "Am I adequately propagandized?"

    Ummm... No. But, you're almost there. You need to watch a little more MSNBC to accomplish your goal.

     
  • Roody2 posted at 10:27 am on Fri, Nov 15, 2013.

    Roody2 Posts: 184

    Eliza.

    "Obama said he’s sorry people are losing their coverage and has vowed to find ways to address “holes and gaps” in the law."

    No need to worry. The President fixed all that in his speech yesterday... Now it's all up to the insurance companies. They are to blame if anything goes wrong.

    Don't we feel relieved about that!?! [wink]

     
  • Eliza posted at 7:31 am on Thu, Nov 14, 2013.

    Eliza Posts: 645

    Reposted from KDH 11/14/2013 AP Article
    Obama Admin. post low health care sign ups;

    ---------


    @ The final number — 106,185 people —
    would be even smaller if it counted only those who finalized their enrollment by actually paying their first month’s premium, Republicans said.
    -----------------
    The lie continues.


    @ Obama said he’s sorry people are losing their coverage and has vowed to find ways to address “holes and gaps” in the law.
    ------------------
    The lie continues.


    I think the truth would be, The people have been led on a wild goose chase with something that in a court of law, would be described as a scam, rip off, fraud and other words to that effect.

    Joining as part of this scheme, were the insurance companies at 1st,since they thought they were going to get to be apart themselves , of a major taking advantage of the citizens of the country. By them being Forced to purchase health insurance. Even though this would be, forcing the public to purchase a product ,from a private or stockholder company.
    Something that goes against the peoples Constitutional Rights.

    But then, even the insurance companies, were forced to 'realize' , they themselves, were not going to profit from the scheme of forcing the people to buy a piece of the Hillary/obamacare package. Instead, were going to suffer also, by being forced to give up millions of customers, by canceling their insurance policies.
    Many of these people had been loyal to their company for years.

    This year the individual customer/family were going to be forced to purchase Hillary/obamacare, and those who thought they would still have coverage through their company/jobs, were then to be notified in 2014, that even their company coverage would be over or premiums would also increase to a higher amount..

    I believe, Its all been a ploy to force the people of the country to buckle under, and go along with the ones who consider themselves in charge of the general masses. Another way to collect 'more money' from the ones who have generally paid the bills for the country, those who do work and pay into 'the system'.

    I guess God got sick of the game and decided to step in and let all of the conniving, be brought to the attention of the people. While they still have a chance to put a stop to all of the taking advantage.
    .
    God has given a chance to the people, to start raising Holy Heck, about this forced
    insurance purchase through their representatives in Washington.
    This program Can be Repealed by the Congress, if the people in a majority tells them that is what They want. And insist on it.
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    How Can the Public Get a Federal Law Repealed?

    By Mark Koltko-Rivera,

    Federal law can be repealed only by an act of Congress. Federal courts, and if necessary the Supreme Court, can declare a law void, which has a similar effect. Only by acting through these organs of federal government can the public repeal or nullify federal law. Have a question? Get an answer from a Lawyer now!

    Organize

    Form an organization to make your displeasure with the law known to the public at large and to federal legislators. Ideally, your organization would be active in all 50 states. The Internet makes it easier to create and sustain national organizations.


    Act of Congress

    As the Congress---the Senate and the House of Representatives---makes laws, so does the Congress have the power to repeal them. Citizens can communicate with their legislators to repeal a law that the citizens think should be changed. Keep in mind that the legislator of a given jurisdiction---a senator from Florida, say, or a representative from Oregon -- is primarily interested in communicating with citizens who vote in that jurisdiction. This underscores the importance of having a nationwide organization promoting your concern.

    Act of a U.S. District Court

    If the concerned citizens feel that a given federal law is a violation of the U.S. Constitution, then they can argue this issue before the U.S. District Court that has jurisdiction over their area. This court may issue a ruling that declares the law unconstitutional and void. Although this does not "repeal" the law, it has much the same effect in practice.

    Act of the U.S. Supreme Court

    If the U.S. District Court rules against the concerned citizens, then they can appeal to a U.S. Court of Appeals for their jurisdiction. If that court rules against them, the citizens may appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, which has the ultimate authority to declare laws unconstitutional and void. Here again, this does not "repeal" the law, but it a Supreme Court ruling declaring a law unconstitutional and void has a similar effect to repealing that law.

     
  • Richard North posted at 3:47 pm on Wed, Nov 13, 2013.

    Richard North Posts: 2

    He is the antichrist, ummm... oh and a socialist one at that. Not to mention a non amerkin. He is a union supporter too. And remember ACORN? Well what ever that was I'm sure it had a evil liberal agenda. Let us not forget we never saw his grades in college either. I also heard he was a community organizer, you know what that means. And last but not least a Muslim. Am I adequately propagandized?

     
  • Roody2 posted at 6:35 pm on Mon, Nov 11, 2013.

    Roody2 Posts: 184

    "You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done." -Ronald Reagan

    HAPPY VETERANS DAY to all of our Veterans who helped preserve the "last best hope of the world."

     
  • Eliza posted at 3:39 pm on Sun, Nov 10, 2013.

    Eliza Posts: 645

    I agree Fran with all you've written.

    @ What more is out there, that has not come to light yet?

    This morning the statement was made by one who would know, that half brother Malik Obama who is being investigated by the Egyptian Gov./ that his case has moved further up in their courts. They want to question this man.

    Malik Obama is the man who was shown special favoritism by IRS/Lois Lerner when he applied for approval of his 'charitable ' foundation which is named Barack H. Obama ,'supposedly', for their father.

    More about this unusual situation is at the below site along with his close association with the Sudanese Gov.
    He is and has been living in the U.S. and is a frequent visitor to the White House.


    Obama’s Brother headed for Egypt’s Terror Watch List?
    By Shoebat Foundation on September 5, 2013
    By Walid Shoebat and Ben Barrack

     
  • Fran posted at 2:14 pm on Sun, Nov 10, 2013.

    Fran Posts: 46

    I agree with the majority of these postings.

    What disturbs me most is the results of his actions have had on this country.

    Besides not passing a budget in 5 years and increased debt, all the expensive

    vacations, the painful truth is that these actions plus Obamacare will diminish

    economic opportunity for all of us, especially the younger generations. I think, that

    there is so much deceit coming out of this administration, that it has people's heads

    spinning...

    What more is out there, that has not come to light yet? People are fearful to say

    anything negative of what this "change" has produced, because he has had the

    NSA listening to everyone's once private conversations, etc. He has made a

    transformation and despite his smooth, slick talk (depending who is in the

    audience), the country resembles a similarity to old Soviet Union. Too bad, as a

    youngster, he did not stay in those communist countries that he lived in and loved.

    But, his lifestyle would not be so lavish in those countries. This country keeps him

    at a lifestyle equivalent to royalty plus 150 golf games. Martha Thatcher was

    correct when she said something to the effect, that socialism works until you run out

    of someone else's money. Add to that, a growing percentage of the populace that

    want something for nothing and will vote accordingly... off topic here, but add

    another 13 million illegals to the voting pool and this country will have been

    transformed to a one party rule.

     
  • Roody2 posted at 9:54 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Roody2 Posts: 184

    “Hitler’s primary rules were: Never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.” -Hitler as His Associates Know Him


     
  • Eliza posted at 7:03 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Eliza Posts: 645

    @ IF you do not want to Issue a Restraint Order to the Supreme Court then please give me the name and address of a Lawyer that will do it as a public service.
    --------------

    Smithjr38---I love your letter - I can't say enough about it other then, I couldn't have written it better myself. [smile]

    A restraining order is a good idea before the people get restrained themselves.[smile]


    With our congressman being a former judge of many years, I'm certain he has had dealings issuing restraining orders for what has been a criminal act.
    He will surely be able to see the reasoning of having one issued against this criminal act of Forcing the People of the country to buy a product they DO NOT WANT!! And the majority have told their reps. and the president this hundreds of times,
    But they just keep smiling and patting our heads like we are a group of dumbos and bimbos. And keeping 'the plan' full speed ahead of -Sell those fools that insurance ,its another way to rob them of more money.

     
  • Eliza posted at 6:50 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Eliza Posts: 645

    I want to agree w/ Smith on something he's brought up.

    We the People Are the Congress, those 435 men and women sitting in our tax payer seats in our tax payer offices, in our nicely furnished offices on the Hill are only there to do our bidding. They are not to vote or state the manner in which they feel it should be done ,but, in the manner in which the majority of their constituents have told them, They want it done.

     
  • Dr Strangelove posted at 3:47 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Dr Strangelove Posts: 399

    Spot on Smithjr, I think Obama also needs to worry about all those cows and autos on Mars. How are they getting there? They must be on Mars since Mars has global warming too.

     
  • Dr Strangelove posted at 3:42 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Dr Strangelove Posts: 399

    Well Pete, I can see English is not your first language—where did I call you a name I stated fact. However if the shoe fits… So you were there? Then you must have not been at the FLOT or wouldn’t make a ridiculous comment about WMDs. You don’t make me laugh you make me feel sad because you probably vote by emotion and not by facts.

     
  • sallydee13 posted at 3:30 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    sallydee13 Posts: 2

    Pete, I assume you are defending Obama's lies by referencing President GW Bush and the WMDs of Iraq. Is that the best defense you have to support Obama lying? Since 2008, the failures of the current administration have been blamed on Bush and/or anything & everything else. Such arrogance & irresponsibility do nothing to enhance Obama's credibility.

    As for the Iraq War, President Bush made his decision based on information presented to him by our security forces and those of our allies. May I remind you that such people as Kerry & Clinton supported the war. How conveniently some people forget.

     
  • Smithjr38 posted at 3:25 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Smithjr38 Posts: 114

    Sir it is not only Obama that is cursing us . It is the Supreme Court , Yet the GOP has not got out rage over the ruling . Perhaps because the Chief Justice Roberts is called a conservative / But he and the most of the Supreme Court ruled we the people must be a slave to the government and the IRS.
    And instead of defunding Obama Care it would be more effective if he GOP would impeach the members of the Supreme Court whom betrayed both the US Constitution and we the people.

     
  • Smithjr38 posted at 3:16 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Smithjr38 Posts: 114

    Here is what I am doing about the tyrant in D.C.

    we all need to write to congress to stop Obama from cursing us in the name of global warming by using the Executive Order loop hole.
    My Honorable Congress persons

    As you know President Obama is issuing a Executive Order that appoints himself God and to do God work in the name of the Global warming scam (without going though the congress ( ie. We the people)

    And is appointing green radicals and green lobbyist to make life miserable for we the people, Radicals like Jerry Brown whom has screwed up California in the name of unions and global warming.

    Note the Big Bang about 14 Billions years ago was the hottest time in the universe and no humans were around to cause it.

    About a week ago on the Since Channel was a 6 part series called.
    “How the earth works “–Science Channel
    The first of he series was named “Will Hawaii Sink LA?”
    Showing that Climate change is not controlled by man but by earth its self via Earthquakes, Volcanoes, and the earths and moon orbit s around the Sun.

    Sir on ITUNES for 2.99 you can download to ITUNES the full TV show with out commercials. On ITUNES search “ How the earth works”
    Tell your staff that ITUNES for Windows is a free down load. IF you wanted the Best and have a Apple ITUNES is part of the Apple system.

    Sir to get to the main reason I am contacting you is the ASK you to get a Restraining Order form the Supreme Court to STOP the President from using the Executive Order to make live more miserable for we the people under the scam of Global Warming Thus President Obama is guilty of violating separation of Church and State by using the Executive Order to appoint him self God.

    And if necessary show the Science Channels How the earth works“ series to the Supreme Court and is just as bout as true as Obama saying he is going to save us from Global Warming is just like his saving us from deciding our health care , but if you like your health care or the current climate You can Keep.IT.

    On Health care impeach the Chief Justice and those whom ruled we must be slaves to Obama Care and the IRS As the so called conservative Chief Justice violated the US Constitution and cursed us with a tyrant health care system .
    And as a bonus also Impeach Obama for exceeding The rules of the US Constitution.

    IF you do not want to Issue a Restraint Order to the Supreme Court then please give me the name and address of a Lawyer that will do it as a public service.

    Thank you,

     
  • Eliza posted at 1:09 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Eliza Posts: 645

    @ "A lie told often enough becomes the truth" - Vladimir Lenin

    You know Roody2-

    Another 'man' who liked to use this same term and method of spreading the word, and weakening further the mind of any who didn't know any better.
    Was Dr Joseph Gobbels,Hitler's Propaganda Overseer.

    Isn't it strange that these two groups, Communist and Nazis are and were so completely different from what is suppose to be 'the American Way'.
    But yet,their same methods seem to be being used today.

     
  • Pete posted at 1:08 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Pete Posts: 111

    I was there too Doc. Go ahead and attack me with name calling. You never fail in giving me a laugh.

     
  • Bubba posted at 12:20 pm on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Bubba Posts: 661

    liberals are arrogant, intolerant fascists. The playbook of liberals is the lie fueled by propaganda. Examine Obama's background, then compare his behavior to mao and lenin. Examine Obama's friends, like wright, ayers, and frank davis. Examine saul alinsky and trotsky.

    You have been warned.

     
  • Roody2 posted at 11:19 am on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Roody2 Posts: 184

    "I don't believe this President's dishonesty has resulted in thousands of deaths..."

    So you do admit he's been dishonest!?!

     
  • Dr Strangelove posted at 11:11 am on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Dr Strangelove Posts: 399

    What cracks me up to some people Obama must be God to them because he can do no wrong. Pete is a good example; how many years has Obama been in office and he's still blaming Bush. You still got people crying about Bush stole the election. Maybe they need some of that medical pot so they can forget?

     
  • Eliza posted at 10:47 am on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Eliza Posts: 645

    I think You're right Strangelove,

    I'm surprised Black America allowed Clinton to get away with that myself.

    But ,It may have been ,he has that good ole boy charm (so some say) and its hard to not believe someone when they have a smile on their face as they are lying to you.
    Its the same with so much of Black America voting for Obama with some admitting they did it for the color. I can understand that in my own way, Those that call themselves Black Americans share in the country, have fought for the country and many have worked just as hard for the country as any others. Why not a black president ?
    But this guy who slipped in pass the voters ,black ,white,Hispanics and any other racial make up, happen to be the wrong one.

    Blacks in America, seem to think Obama will take care of them because of their color, but they have to remember, he is of African blood in his own theory of himself, even though he shares a white blood line.
    There's a big difference in being African and a Black American, Ask a true African what they think of Black Americans. As a fellow American I don't think You would like the answer. I know I didn't. It would make you kind of angry.

    If the man has lied about so many things thus far, With this Hillary/Obamacare being the last.
    Do you feel ,black or white or which ever, Any American is really safe under his regime .All had better wise up.
    Just because Obama has that same good ole boy charming way about him like when he uses word like 'the folks' as Bill Clinton did, Be on the alert, you are going to need alertness now and really big time in the future.

    "A lie told often enough becomes the truth" - Vladimir Lenin

     
  • Eliza posted at 10:22 am on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Eliza Posts: 645

    @
    “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period.”

    “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period.


    There were no, ifs ,ands, or buts, when the president made the above statements,only PERIOD !
    Remember his spoken words are in picture form and a picture, is worth a thousand, of his trying to explain himself out of a lie.

    Many would wonder, why does he continue to try and lie his way out of a lie.
    Its because, he still thinks, there's enough fools willing to go along with him and believe him, the way they have from the beginning.
    He has duped them from the get go and will continue to do the same.

    Oh the webs we weave, until we have our prey wrapped in our trap so tightly, they won't know what's happened when we make the final squeeze.

     
  • Dr Strangelove posted at 9:35 am on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Dr Strangelove Posts: 399

    Sorry typo "were"

     
  • Dr Strangelove posted at 9:34 am on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Dr Strangelove Posts: 399

    Pete I was there, WMDs where there.

     
  • Dr Strangelove posted at 9:33 am on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Dr Strangelove Posts: 399

    Sorry Barbie the Commander and Chief Liar is the Second Black President. The media crowned little Billy Clinton as the First Black President. Which is a total insult to black people; liberals and uninformed people that voted for him don’t get it.

     
  • Pete posted at 9:27 am on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Pete Posts: 111

    I don't believe this President's dishonesty has resulted in thousands of deaths and disabilities as "WMD" has. The WMD charade truly meets the standard for a high crime and misdemeanor.

     
  • barbie500 posted at 8:06 am on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    barbie500 Posts: 128

    I don't understand why he is still here after all he has done and why people continue to support him. Is it because he is " the first black president " and if we do something like impeach him people would say it was because he was black? What difference does it make what color he is? He is dishonest, he lies and half the time he acts like he doesn't know what is going on in this country. Is it because he is stupid? What is wrong with the people in this country that we keep on believing all this junk?

     
  • Roody2 posted at 7:36 am on Sat, Nov 9, 2013.

    Roody2 Posts: 184

    "A lie told often enough becomes the truth" - Vladimir Lenin