Monroe County Sheriff Deputy Chief Steve Scott, second from right, and Webster Police Lt. Joseph Rieger stand by the photo of the dead and injured firefighters during a news conference Tuesday in Webster, N.Y. Authorities said William Spengler, 62, who served 17 years in prison for manslaughter, set his house afire then sprayed bullets at first responders, killing two firefighters and injuring two others. He then killed himself as seven houses burned along Lake Ontario. Several Herald readers commented on the latest gun violence and possible solutions to the problem.

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To the Editor:

Here we go again. Yet another shooting. More dead in another tough gun-law state.

This time two New York firefighters were murdered while responding to a fire and two others and a policeman were wounded. As usual, only the criminal shooter, who cares nothing about the law, was armed.

This took place in New York with the toughest anti-gun laws in the nation. How much did those New York “gun bans” help the dead and wounded firefighters? Do you think perhaps the outcome could have been different if those firefighters also had the means to protect themselves?

Watch and see; the liberal-progressive “loony tune” gun ban idiots will use this as another excuse to ban guns when all logic, reason and just plain common sense would tell you that the opposite reaction would be best.

Allow law-abiding adults, trained in the use of firearms, to own and carry guns everywhere.

Don’t leave them at the mercy of criminals who don’t care about or follow any laws, especially strict gun laws like they have in places like New York, California, Illinois and Connecticut.

The strictest gun laws in the nation did nothing to protect those firefighters any more than they did those poor school children in Newtown, Conn. And as usual, the police were too late to respond and protect anyone.

If you can’t protect yourself and your loved ones, you’re toast. Own a gun and train with it. Know how to use it. Get a concealed carry permit that only law-abiding adult citizens can obtain.

Allow law-abiding, background-checked, mature college educated teachers to conceal carry on their persons while in school if they want to. Let them have the means to protect themselves and their students. If they can’t be trusted with a gun, then who can?

Stop this anti-gun and anti-Second Amendment nonsense once and for all. As the NRA chief, Wayne LaPierre correctly said: “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun.”

Ed Coet


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Viktor, good points and Stats.

It is irresponsible and immature to attempt to argue issues like guns until you discuss the environment of our Nation. Just as you see in the numbers and stats in Viktor's Post, we have "environment" challenges that could make 'butter knives' a potential weapon. Are we to regulate butter knives now, too?

The sickness that is over-shadowing the financial, governmental, social, moral, ethical and familial structures are 'showing their effects'. The alcoholism and substance abuse, depression/medication, etc., are all the "Surface Symptoms" that mask the 'Root Cause"! People are seeking 'sedation' from the hopelessness of a Nation under attack.

Let's all wake up and recognize the Root Cause of these issues and stop following the 'lead' of the 'programming' of media, thoughtlessly. Putting bandaids on every surface symptom that pops up, instead of identifying the root cause and dealing with it, is just nonsense!

"It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society." J. Krishnamurti

Freedom is NOT free. We must be diligent in Managing our government and lives.
Many of you are trying to 'steal' the rights of others, out of a lack of understanding!


Good guys stop bad guys with guns? What is a good guy? Looking at USA's statistics from CDC & National Institute for Mental Health: 22 million have substance abuse issues, 17.6 million are chronic drinkers, 2.4 million have schizophrenia, 5.7 million are diagnosed bipolar, 20.9 million have mood disorders & 10% take antidepressants. Its a pool of potential Adam Lanza types waiting to explode. Guns add to irrational & impulsive actions. As far as good guys like cops having guns, Cato Institute reported 91 gun fatalities were included among 4,861 credible reports of police misconduct in 2010. No one can predict who is a good guy. Anyone has the capability to be irrational at any moment & having a gun in hand only lends to the problem.

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Mr. Coet, yes two firefighters lost their lives and their families lost their loved ones to gun violence and it was reported in the national media. It has also been reported that the criminal went tthrough an intermediary to gain possession of the instruments of death to do his evil. So I guess the tough gun laws of New York aren't comprehensive enough? What hasn't been reported in the national media are the other on average 30 citizens who lost their lives and families who lost their loved ones to gun violence that same day. It is a shame that you continue to call those with differing views names. It is a greater shame that your views are so ingrained and you chose to speak out consistently on anecdotal cases so often, rather than acknowledging the much larger issue of gun violence/accidents in America. Glad though that you have the opporunity to voice your opinions in a town and country. That's the 1st Amendment and funny how you don't need a weapon to exercise it.


120 Americans die every day in their cars. I bet you drive one. That makes you a greater threat to my safety than my firearms are to yours. We need to stop listening to irrational shrieking like yours as it solves nothing.


why does crime with guns keep going up every year if all thest brave people from the NRA is out there protecting you when they keep putting more guns on the streets to be stolen since there member can't stop from selling them to non consealed handgun people. and keep saying it up to the police to keep them being stolen.

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