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Posted: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:45 pm

To the Editor:

In response to the article in Wednesday’s, May 7, Killeen Daily Herald, “Senators call for VA Secretary to resign,” Secretary Shinseki, in my opinion, is the wrong individual to be going after.

The directors of the VA hospitals should be the ones on the chopping block. They are paid to take care of us veterans who utilize the facilities they are entrusted to oversee.

All I see them doing is sitting back and drawing a big, fat paycheck as well as bonuses they are not entitled to.

They may very well be book smart, but common sense would dictate coming out of their big office and talking with the patients about the care they are receiving or in this case, the care they are not receiving.

Shinseki has a number of VA hospitals under him, and I do not see how he can oversee all of them without having a trustworthy director at each site, and apparently he doesn’t have that.

We all know the VA system is messed up and has been for quite a while.

Let’s start getting rid of the dead weight, and put some action people in the positions.

Just because you have a Ph.D. doesn’t make you a leader.

retired Sgt. 1st Class Perry L. Sanders

disabled veteran

Killeen

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27 comments:

  • Mamma Griz posted at 10:54 am on Thu, May 22, 2014.

    Mamma Griz Posts: 293

    For information only:

    There are 23 VISNS within the VA Healthcare system, with many hospitals, outpatient clinics and CBOCs within them. We are in VISN 17 which includes:


    VA Health Care System

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    Central Texas Veterans Health Care System, Olin E. Teague Veterans Medical Center (Temple, TX)

    South Texas Veterans Health Care System (San Antonio, TX)

    VA North Texas Health Care System (Dallas, TX)

    VA Texas Valley Coastal Bend Health Care System (Harlingen, TX)

    VA Medical Center

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    Dallas VA Medical Center (Dallas, TX)

    Kerrville VA Hospital (Kerrville, TX)

    Sam Rayburn Memorial Veterans Center (Bonham, TX)

    VA Health Care Center at Harlingen (Harlingen, TX)

    Waco VA Medical Center (Waco, TX)

    Outpatient Clinic

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    Austin Outpatient Clinic (Austin, TX)

    Balcones Heights Outpatient Clinic (San Antonio, TX)

    Corpus Christi OPC (Corpus Christi, TX)

    Corpus Christi PACT Annex (Corpus Christi, TX)

    Corpus Christi VA Speciality Outpatient Clinic (Corpus Christi, TX)

    Fort Worth Outpatient Clinic (Fort Worth, TX)

    Frank M. Tejeda VA Outpatient Clinic (San Antonio, TX)

    Harlingen VA Outpatient Clinic (Harlingen, TX)

    Laredo Outpatient Clinic (Laredo, TX)

    McAllen Outpatient Clinic (McAllen, TX)

    North Central Federal OPC (San Antonio, TX)

    North McAllen PACT Annex (McAllen, TX)

    Polk Street VA Annex Clinic (Dallas, TX)

    San Antonio Dental Clinic (San Antonio, TX)

    Shavano Park Outpatient Clinic (San Antonio, TX)

    Temple VA Clinic Annex (Temple, TX)

    Tyler VA Primary Care Clinic (Tyler, TX)

    Victoria OPC (Victoria, TX)

    Community Based Outpatient Clinic

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    Beeville CBOC (Beeville, TX)

    Bridgeport CBOC (Bridgeport, TX)

    Brownwood CBOC (Brownwood, TX)

    Bryan/College Station CBOC (College Station, TX)

    Cedar Park CBOC (Cedar Park, TX)

    Denton CBOC (Denton, TX)

    Granbury CBOC (Granbury, TX)

    Greenville CBOC (Greenville, TX)

    LaGrange OutReach Clinic (LaGrange, TX)

    New Braunfels CBOC (New Braunfels, TX)

    NorthEast 410 /San Antonio Clinic (San Antonio, TX)

    Northwest 410/San Antonio Clinic (San Antonio, TX)

    Palestine CBOC (Palestine, TX)

    Pecan Valley CBOC (San Antonio, TX)

    Seguin CBOC (Seguin, TX)

    Sherman CBOC (Sherman, TX)

    South Bexar/San Antonio Clinic (San Antonio, TX)

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  • Eliza posted at 3:51 pm on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    Eliza Posts: 1068

    @ To quote B Hussein O - They are just “bumps in the road.”


    To which the General will reply --- Ain't that the truth

    And it makes me And the president both 'Mad as Hell'

     
  • Eliza posted at 3:47 pm on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    Eliza Posts: 1068

    @ I somehow feel responsible for the obvious confusion caused by my post directed to you that resulted in Mamma G believing your response to my post was directed at her.

    "Alright, alright I apologize. I'm really, really sorry. I apologize unreservedly. I offer a complete and utter retraction. The imputation was totally without basis in fact and was in no way fair comment and was motivated purely by malice and I deeply regret any distress that my comments may have caused you or your family and I hereby undertake not to repeat any such slander at any time in the future." -John Cleese in “A Fish Called Wanda.”

    [smile][smile][smile][smile]

     
  • Roody2 posted at 11:31 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    Roody2 Posts: 699

    Your on the winning side there Mamma G!

    Shinseki's preliminary results will prove those people were going to die regardless of treatment.

    To quote B Hussein O - They are just “bumps in the road.”

     
  • Roody2 posted at 11:25 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    Roody2 Posts: 699

    Eliza,

    I somehow feel responsible for the obvious confusion caused by my post directed to you that resulted in Mamma G believing your response to my post was directed at her.

    After totally overlooking the fact that you were responding to me she felt the need to attack you personally with the post containing the insinuation you are both uneducated and crazy. This boorish and unprovoked behavior was apparently caused by a complete and total oversight on her part.

    I would attack the attacker by saying “ It pays to be awake and informed! A person must engage her brain before she opens her mouth or goes to a keyboard.” but it’s against my character to make personal attacks so I will refrain from such a remark. And besides, I hate saying things I need to apologize for. I would much rather think before I speak.

    However, since apologies seem to be all the rage these days I think it’s important to have one ready just in case.

    So, if I were to say something I need to apologize for I would probably use this one because it seems to cover all the political correctness:

    "Alright, alright I apologize. I'm really, really sorry. I apologize unreservedly. I offer a complete and utter retraction. The imputation was totally without basis in fact and was in no way fair comment and was motivated purely by malice and I deeply regret any distress that my comments may have caused you or your family and I hereby undertake not to repeat any such slander at any time in the future." -John Cleese in “A Fish Called Wanda.”

     
  • Mamma Griz posted at 5:43 am on Mon, May 19, 2014.

    Mamma Griz Posts: 293

    Eliza, you need not worry about me. I'm more sane than you seem be-- despite my advancing years. I have been retired since November of 2013 but I haven't quit working. Resting and relaxation-- what are those things. You are the one that needs to go to a government "education" camp. Not a "re-education" camp, because you need to have had education in order to be re-educated.

    Retired at the end of November, but I haven't been sitting around on my posterior-- I don't have time for that.

     
  • Eliza posted at 9:01 pm on Sun, May 18, 2014.

    Eliza Posts: 1068

    @ Eliza,
    I'm worried about you. It sounds like you need some rest and relaxation at one of our government funded "re-education" camps.
    -------------
    Don't spread the word about the re-education camps --- [smile]
    Some people may think, you really get one of them there educations at the place
    And they'll want one too.

     
  • Roody2 posted at 6:04 pm on Sun, May 18, 2014.

    Roody2 Posts: 699

    Eliza,

    I'm worried about you. It sounds like you need some rest and relaxation at one of our government funded "re-education" camps.


     
  • Eliza posted at 5:09 pm on Sun, May 18, 2014.

    Eliza Posts: 1068

    @ Anyway, it's not like the problem could be fixed overnight so why would anyone think 6 years is enough time? ---


    Especially since the people were told -We had someone elected into the office in 2008 & 12 who 'supposedly'
    was going to change the world for all of us. Even they should think by now,things have never been as bad as they are under the presence administration.

    But He did see, that the world changed for a lot of us, Some veterans families have had to stand by and watch their loved ones die due to non care at the VA, others being forced to buy medical care policies that really isn't worth the paper they were written on & that the majority didn't want, citizens being disallowed the right to have a non profit org. enforced by the IRS. simply because they were part of a conservative group etc.

    And the biggest disappointment is to know, we still have people who are 'supposedly' educated and still haven't figured out they have been duped.

    Many of them are still Obama Girls and Obama boys even though they are of an age they should have figured out by now, they have been used !

    Can I blame Obama for their ignorance ? I don't think so, He just threw them a bone and they swallowed it up.

     
  • Roody2 posted at 10:31 am on Sun, May 18, 2014.

    Roody2 Posts: 699

    I totally agree!

    Problems shouldn't be fixed... especially if you have someone else to blame them on! Pointing finger is so much easier.

    Anyway, it's not like the problem could be fixed overnight so why would anyone think 6 years is enough time?

    I'm just glad we are getting away from the OIL thing. After all, it certainly didn't work out for us when Bush started that war over it. We are deeper in debt and oil prices are higher than ever!!! I can't believe he didn't figure in the price of the war when he thought we could get all that "free" oil. I'll bet he was watching FOX news!

    We need to make the "right" to realize if we get rid of our military all together we would never have to fight a war again. (Note for all you skeptics out there: It would work kinda like getting rid of our guns so nobody will get shot.)

    Ignore the "vacation" thing. That's just diversion and subterfuge.

     
  • Mamma Griz posted at 10:11 am on Sun, May 18, 2014.

    Mamma Griz Posts: 293

    Found in an article::

    VA Secretary Shinseki told the committee he hopes to have preliminary results within three weeks on audits he ordered at the VA's 150 medical centers and 820 community outpatient clinics nationwide in an effort to determine how widespread the treatment delays and falsified reports are.

    Far different numbers from the "approximately 23 Hospitals/clinics inside the VA System" that is referenced elsewhere.

     
  • Mamma Griz posted at 9:53 am on Sun, May 18, 2014.

    Mamma Griz Posts: 293

    Eliza, it just so happens that I am not an Obama girl. I happen to be a person who can think for herself and I sure as shooting don't need ANYBODY telling me what party to vote for or what person to vote. Guess a female who can think for herself is a rarity in this day and age.

     
  • Bubba posted at 8:51 am on Sun, May 18, 2014.

    Bubba Posts: 844

    Regime change in Iraq was made US policy in 1998 by bill clinton. To suggest that the campaign that followed was an "illegal war" proves the writer a liar. A liberal thought it was a good idea to be rid of saddam hussein, and it had nothing to do with oil. Further, the Congress voted and provided President Bush with the authority to act as required by law. So no "illegal wars" have gone on here-just the spewing of propaganda and lies of hate-filled, arrogant liberals who continue to insult our troops and veterans over their service in Iraq.

     
  • Bubba posted at 8:40 am on Sun, May 18, 2014.

    Bubba Posts: 844

    Comments made about our troops, denigrating their efforts in Iraq by outright lying about their mission there continue to be one of the many reasons I really don't like liberals very much. They continue to spew the nonsense that our troops deployed for oil, when this is clearly untrue. Then they claim to care for our veterans, when the truth is that they would prefer that our veterans die quietly and stop reminding the liberals of their failures. Liberals hate our country, its military, and our veterans, and they continue to prove it every day. As for the grifters in the white house flying around the world for shopping trips, these trips were paid from my tax receipts. Comments to the contrary indicate that liberals really aren't capable of thinking at all. They prefer to bankrupt the land with their socialism.

     
  • Eliza posted at 6:44 am on Sun, May 18, 2014.

    Eliza Posts: 1068

    You're too easy mama / since you're an Obama girl [smile]

     
  • Mamma Griz posted at 3:52 am on Sun, May 18, 2014.

    Mamma Griz Posts: 293

    Yes it did. I know a little about the VISN networks and I don't go around saying that there are approximately 23 hospitals/clinics in the V A system.

     
  • Mamma Griz posted at 3:45 am on Sun, May 18, 2014.

    Mamma Griz Posts: 293

    I had no use for George W Bush and still don't have any use for him. But Bubba, I'm glad you realize that these problems have been around a long time. Just think how much less problem there would be if there had never been two illegal wars, one of which has ended and one is still going on. Just think, we would have fewer veterans who need care if there hadn't been so many injured in those illegal wars. And why did we get involved? OIL. Those countries had not attacked us, but we wanted the oil. As for Michelle Obama's vacations, they were not paid by you so why are you sweating it. How many "illegal" vacations did Laura Bush take? Of course, you wouldn't think about that.

     
  • Bubba posted at 7:06 pm on Sat, May 17, 2014.

    Bubba Posts: 844

    I have no use for obama, nor do I have any regard for eric shinsecki. I didn't like him when he was a general, and was not thrilled when his liberal puppet masters placed him at VA. It would be easy for me to put the blame at their feet, but that would not be accurate or fair. These problems preceded these men, by a considerable time; and those managing hospitals may also be blameless. That is because the VA budget is set by the Congress, each house having a veterans committee which has failed for decades to properly resource these facilities. Just think of the good that could have been done if we could take the money that has thus far been wasted on the Unconstitutional obamacare "website" and michelle obama's illegal vacations, and used it to hire doctors at VA. Maybe some of those who have died would not have. Because that's the problem-staffing and resources. That starts with the Congress, and that's where the fingers need to point.

     
  • Eliza posted at 6:34 pm on Sat, May 17, 2014.

    Eliza Posts: 1068

    I knew that list would draw you out mama [beam]

     
  • Mamma Griz posted at 2:45 pm on Sat, May 17, 2014.

    Mamma Griz Posts: 293

    Eliza, you listed the 23 NETWORKS, and each network consists of many V A hospitals and clinics. If you would take the time to check it out, you would find out there are over 100 hospitals and clinics. VISN 17 is one NETWORK-- there is more than one hospital in that network. It pays to be awake and informed! A person must engage her brain before she opens her mouth or goes to a keyboard.

     
  • Roody2 posted at 2:36 pm on Sat, May 17, 2014.

    Roody2 Posts: 699

    Sorry, Barbie500. I didn't mean to alarm you.

    This is just another "non-scandal" by those Republicans/Conservatives, anyway. Everyone knows the VA problems were fixed years ago.

    But, just so we get cheese to go with the "whine" we could pick someone in the VA Administration who can retire with a six figure pension (and full benefits)and ask them to resign so it will look like the imaginary problem is fixed... again. That way no one really important gets hurt.

    Then, the "right" can move on to some other made up scandal and stop interfering with the "left" and their mission to save the world... one country at a time, leveling playing fields and redistributing wealth along the way.

    We mustn't stop progress!

     
  • Roody2 posted at 2:04 pm on Sat, May 17, 2014.

    Roody2 Posts: 699

    Eliza,

    Thank you for acknowledging my hard work.

    It's not easy but somebody has to do the thinking for those who can't think for themselves... there are so many of them out there! [wink]

     
  • Eliza posted at 8:12 am on Sat, May 17, 2014.

    Eliza Posts: 1068

    Roody2 You've zeroed in on the problem and solution once again --- You have all the answers to these crazy problems the American people have been given by many of our country's 'leaders'

    [beam]

     
  • Eliza posted at 8:09 am on Sat, May 17, 2014.

    Eliza Posts: 1068

    [thumbup] [beam]

     
  • barbie500 posted at 1:53 pm on Thu, May 15, 2014.

    barbie500 Posts: 162

    I don't know what to make of your letter, surely you can't be serious, give a bonus and pay raise to imcompetent people? I hope you are just joking. Get rid of all the deadwood and hire people who really want to work.

     
  • Roody2 posted at 4:55 pm on Sun, May 11, 2014.

    Roody2 Posts: 699

    We need to get away from the old way of thinking. Just because someone is incompetent at their job does not mean they need to be fired.

    No. Some people are incompetent at their job because collectively the others aren't helping them enough. And, if we didn't give bonuses to the incompetent workers how would the ones who work really hard and are good at their jobs learn they need to help their co-workers more?

    Anyway, more pay and bonuses is what makes people more productive. So, could you imagine how terrible it would have been without the bonuses and pay raises?

    We can't just start discriminating against an entire group of people. Pretty soon everybody who was incompetent would be without a job and that would be a very slippery slope for us to be on.

    Seriously, people… we need to progress!

     
  • Eliza posted at 10:07 am on Sun, May 11, 2014.

    Eliza Posts: 1068

    I can agree with nearly everything the Sgt. says in ref. to the Directors of the VA Hospitals being the ones who should have 'hands on' inside the hospital they are being paid to be responsible for. However,
    with there being approximately 23 Hospitals/clinics inside the VA System,I feel the Sec of Veterans Affairs should also be willing to make unannounced visits to these facilities also. To do his own walk through with the patients and staff.

    He has been in office receiving a paycheck several years. He knew when he accepted the job ,he took on the responsibility of the Hospital System ,it would seem natural that if you are truly dedicated to the job, you would voluntarily want at times to make personal contact with the people this system is suppose to support, The Veteran,
    and make certain, they are receiving the attention and care the tax payer was under the impression they were paying for.


    Veterans Integrated Service Networks (VISN):

    VISN 1: VA New England Healthcare System
    VISN 2: VA Health Care Upstate New York
    VISN 3: VA NY/NJ Veterans Healthcare Network
    VISN 4: VA Healthcare - VISN 4
    VISN 5: VA Capitol Health Care Network
    VISN 6: VA Mid-Atlantic Health Care Network
    VISN7: VA Southeast Network
    VISN 8: VA Sunshine Healthcare Network
    VISN 9: VA Mid South Healthcare Network
    VISN 10: VA Healthcare System of Ohio
    VISN 11: Veterans In Partnership
    VISN 12: VA Great Lakes Health Care System
    VISN 15: VA Heartland Network
    VISN 16: South Central VA Health Care Network
    VISN 17: VA Heart of Texas Health Care Network
    VISN 18: VA Southwest Health Care Network
    VISN 19: Rocky Mountain Network
    VISN 20: Northwest Network
    VISN 21: Sierra Pacific Network
    VISN 22: Desert Pacific Healthcare Network
    VISN 23: VA Midwest Health Care Network