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A petition to shut down Fort Hood has been started on change.org

A petition has started online to push the federal government to shut down Fort Hood, and it has gained traction quickly.

The petition comes because of how Fort Hood handled the Vanessa Guillen case. The petition was started Wednesday morning and had over 264,000 signatures by 4:30 p.m. Thursday afternoon.

Guillen is a 20-year-old specialist who was serving on Fort Hood before she went missing. Fort Hood officials said she was promoted to Specialist due to time in service, effective July 1.

She was last seen on April 22. Partial human remains that are believed to be Guillen were found near the Leon River in Bell County’s Little-River area on Tuesday.

Before she went missing, she told family that she was being sexually harassed at work by her superior.

Fort Hood is investigating the allegations but the family of Guillen is demanding a congressional investigation into the case.

One suspect in the Guillen case was a Fort Hood soldier that killed himself early Wednesday morning as authorities tried to make contact with him in Killeen. Another suspect, a civilian who is an estranged former Fort Hood soldier’s wife, is in custody.

On Wednesday, during a press conference with the family of Guillen in Washington D.C., Lupe Guillen, Vanessa Guillen’s sister, called for Fort Hood to be shut down.

“I want Fort Hood Army base to be shut down and for them to investigate every single one of them,” Lupe Guillen said.

Jessica Mendez started the petition.

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(14) comments

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I have been asked to sign this petition from Ms. Campos-Palma, who is a political strategist, and friends have asked my opinion about it. So here are my thoughts. I know that it pulls on the heartstrings, it pulls on mine for sure. But I feel the need to express what I think about it because of what our country is becoming. I know I may get a lot of heat from this, but if so, I understand. I do not take this lightly. As an older female vet, I have watched for 35 years while people in this country do what they can to weaken our military, the greatest in the world. From down-sizing, to falsely accusing men for harassment and ruining long careers, to stress cards, to being able to quit basic training and leave the military if you couldn't hack it. Now its this petition. I 100% support our troops and I am in no way disrespecting them because I love them and want my military to remain very strong, but none of this existed in my day. And it didn't exist in my grandfather's, father's and uncle's and cousin's day. People have hated me for saying this, but I have said for years the obvious reasons for these is the advancement of women in our military. Now I in no way am trying to take anything away from my gender because God knows that we as women have fought very hard for what we have and we have come a long way and we still have a line way to go. I know that you are probably screaming already if you are a woman, but if you honestly take a good look at what has transpired over the years, you will understand what I am trying to say. I don't believe women belong together in the same military with men. Some of the reasons why I feel this way are between me and God. You may ask me how I could say this as I am still a super warrior myself and have fought so hard for women’s rights which are extremely important to me, but the most important thing is my country and my military and our strength. I have believed eventually, it will become a breakdown in our strength, not because women are not strong, they are,we built airplanes, ammunition and supplies for WW2. Our American women are phenomenal and amazing women. But I have thought the inclusion of our genders in the military would break our men down as well as our women, and in the long run, our military. And now, here it is happening right before our very eyes today. I predicted this back in 1985 when I joined the Army. Today we are actually seeing the demands of a military post being shut down and the removal of it's chain of command, from a group of female veterans. It only took 42 years for it to happen. The WACs were officially abolished in 1978. You cannot put men and women together and expect everything to carry on as normal, especially 20 year olds. Its human nature. It doesn’t work in the civilian world and it certainly does not work in the military world. Where do most couples meet? At work. When I was in basic training, the women trained separate from the men, until AIT. Everything changes there. The three women that were with me in AIT were all dating the lead sergeants, including me, I was dating the drill sergeant. Men were on the top floor, women were on the bottom floor. Late at night, you can bet there was alot of visitations going on. We were all 20 years old, fresh out of school, in the best shape of our lives, full of pride and proud of our accomplishments, with fire in our eyes. And while I have zero tolerance and absolutely do not condone any harassment whatsoever, of course things are going to happen. My military service was the best time of my life. But I had to be tough, very very tough. And “I am a victim...” is so much of what I hear from some of the women of today that are enlisted. Please do not think I loop all women into this category, as a lot of the veterans and currently serving women I know are some of the toughest people I have ever met whom I am extremely proud of. Several have served very bravely in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan and have returned heavily decorated but with PTSD and you would not even know it to talk to them because they don’t ride the victim train. And when I read “it took me years to realize that a fellow airmen at my Christmas party groping me under the table was not normal", all I could do was laugh. Really??? You didn't learn that in high school? If not, then the military may not be the best place for you. Alot of them seem so thin-skinned and entitled. The taxi pulling up to my first duty station, getting my duffle bag out of the trunk of the taxi, I heard "oh yeah, fresh meat!" I have very thick skin and knew going in that I would have to deal with all kinds of stuff from men. I already had. And I could handle myself and still can. Those men eventually became my best friends because I stood my ground and earned their respect and they earned mine. And that is what women should be doing. All of these ridiculous women in Hollywood who after something happened 20 or 30 years ago are now screaming that they were harassed or assaulted. You take care of something right when it happens. Violently if need be. You don’t sit around dwelling on it for 20 or 30 years and then scream “victim here”. I know that some women have been confronted with people who don’t seem to care when they report it, but you don’t stop until you get results. Period! But women need to understand exactly what the military is for. It does not exist for your college education or so that you can have a job and it is not a daycare facility. It is for the protection of this country and our freedom. This should have become clear when you were training to kill. And these women who scream harassment when they believe that someone has said something they don't care for need to think about what they are doing. I witnessed a young female private just out of basic training making advancements toward a Colonel who flat out refused her advances toward him. She filed harassment charges against him and won because a female Captain with a chip on her shoulder (who witnessed nothing) came swooping in to her defense and started the downfall of this poor man. It became her personal vendetta to take this man down. I realized right then that everyone was afraid to go up against her for fear of their own careers. This is wrong on so many levels. So he, having done absolutely nothing wrong, was forced to retire. He had a nice family which I am sure was impacted by this. I approached her and told her she would burn for what she did. She just laughed and walked away. She knew that I knew the truth. And I also realized what was starting to happening and what was to become. I felt the shift. That was my last year. So now, here we are and I am sad to see it. All of this being said, I am so very sorry for what happened to Vanessa Guillen. It is a terrible tragedy and heinous murder and such a waste of a beautiful life. And my heart breaks in two for her family. This should not have happened. And the man that murdered her got off too easy by killing himself. He was a monster that deserved to die. However, none of this is grounds for what Campos-Palma is trying to accomplish on her platform. Her comment that “most women who have served in the military have experienced or know someone who has experienced harassment or assault" is absolutely not true. Yes, it does exist of course, just like everywhere else. But she cannot speak for all veterans and current military members, of which I know a multitude, so her trying to boycott enlistment by saying things like this makes me absolutely furious. And it makes me furious that she is trying to burn the chain of command at Fort Hood. She has no clue what is happening at that post and what is going on in their investigation. She is trying to stir a witch hunt and is doing it successfully. And they are already spreading photos of top-ranking personnel at Fort Hood on social media to gather hate. This is so wrong and dangerous and it needs to stop. And civilians need to stay out of it, the military does not answer to civilians. The only civilians who have anything to say in this is Vanessa Guillen’s family. No one else. I would like to see the WACS return with the same rights to combat and jobs that we now have and that men have, a women’s military separate from them , in our country. Because obviously it’s not working as it is now, as disastrous results have shown in West Point. But we cannot go backward, and the weakening of our military must stop. We cannot start closing military post when something happens, no matter how tragic. Do we close schools when shootings occur? Do we close offices and businesses when terrorist attack them? Do we cancel marathons and concerts and close bars when shootings occur? No. We soldier on. Our patriot ancestors (including our very brave and incredibly strong women of that time) who fought in the American Revolution fought a very bloody war and won against the "once" greatest military in the world for our independence. They were ill equipped but were tough as nails, and they still pulled it off. We need to return to this if we are to continue to be the greatest military on the planet. Especially our female military. And I would remind Ms. Campos-Palma who is supposed to be a veteran, that our military does not promise to keep our sons and daughters safe, even from it's own monsters. They sign up to be put in harm’s way. She should have realized this sometime ago. We are in a war after all. So my answer is no. I will not sign this woman’s petition and I would seriously ask for all female veterans and current enlisted or anyone else who receives this petition to calm their anger for a minute and to think about what they are doing and what it means before they sign it. I am extremely proud of and support all of my sisters-in-arms, but this petition is not about them. It is about one woman’s need for power and the demand to weaken our military with the closure of one of our greatest military post and the ruining of several careers of people she knows nothing about.

93030

Agree wholeheartedly!

mundom01

TO: Bhinzman10@gmail.com

YOU SAY THAT THIS PETITION AND THE IDEA TO SHUT DOWN FORT HOOD ARMY BASE IS "CUTE".

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING THROUGH YOUR DARK, CONVOLUTED, ABYSSMAL, PRIMITIVE MIND, BUT PLEASE ALLOW ME TO EDUCATE YOU:

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING "CUTE" ABOUT THE IDEA OF THIS PETITION. THERE IS NOTHING "CUTE" ABOUT THIS HORRIFIC TRAGEDY--OR ANYTHING IN CONNECTION TO IT.

A TRAGEDY IS NEVER "CUTE"--NOR ARE ITS CONSEQUENCES "CUTE". THE REASONS BEHIND THE IDEA OF SHUTTING DOWN A REPEATEDLY UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT IS NEVER "CUTE"-- EVEN IF ITS AN ARMY BASE. THE MISHANDLING OF THIS--AND OTHER DEVASTATING TRAGEDIES--ARE NEVER "CUTE".

YOUR WORDS ARE NOT "CUTE". YOUR SENTIMENTS (OR LACK OF) ARE NOT "CUTE". YOUR DEMEANOR IS NOT "CUTE". YOUR ATTITUDE IS NOT "CUTE". YOU ARE NOT "CUTE". THIS ENTIRE HEARTWRENCHING MATTER IS NOT "CUTE".

IF YOU ARE A MILITARY SERVICEPERSON (OR A VETERAN), THEN YOU ARE A "DISGRACE"--AND SO IS YOUR CHOICE OF WORD ("CUTE"), ON THIS MOST MORTIFYING TRAGEDY.

THE US ARMY--ALONG WITH THE OTHER US MILITARY BRANCHES OF SERVICE--ARE ALL MOST GLORIOUS, HONORABLE, NOBLE, GREAT AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS.

BUT YOU ARE NOT "GLORIOUS". YOU ARE NOT "HONORABLE". YOU ARE NOT "NOBLE". YOU ARE NOT "GREAT". AND YOU DEFINITELY ARE NOT "CUTE".

IF YOU ARE A US SERVICEMEMBER (OR A VETERAN), THEN YOU BRING SHAME AND DISHONOR TO THAT FINE, STERLING UNIFORM, AND YOU GROSSLY MISREPRESENT OUR GREAT US MILITARY.

AND IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE SERVING AT FORT HOOD, THEN YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER REASON FOR THE PETITION TO MOST DEFINITELY FOLLOW THROUGH.

YOUR INSENSITIVITY, ALONG WITH YOUR POOR CHOICE OF WORD ("CUTE"), REGARDING THIS MOST PAINFUL AND DEVASTATING MATTER, IS AN ABHORRENCE, IS BARBARIC, AND VERY DISGUSTING.

AND YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER PATHETIC, MORALLY INSENSITIVE, HEARTLESS, CALLOUS, CRUEL, INDECENT, AND INHUMANE, LOST SOUL.

SHOW SOME RESPECT, DECENCY, DIGNITY, AND HUMANITY TOWARDS VANESSA GUILLEN, GREGORY MORALES, AND TOWARDS THEIR BELOVED FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

START BY CHOOSING YOUR WORDS AND EXPRESSIONS CAREFULLY AND WITH THE UPMOST RESPECT, KINDNESS, AND DECENCY. THESE WERE OUR BELOVED, BRAVE SOLDIERS.

YOUR WORDING--AND PRESENTATION--ARE NOT "CUTE".

I AM A VETERAN OF THE US NAVY WITH HONORSBLE SERVICE.

mundom01

TO: Noe Rodriguez

I FEEL YOU, MI HERMANO, I FEEL YOUR SENTIMENTS.

BUT THE FACT IS THERE ARE SEVERAL INCIDENTS OF GRAVE MISCONDUCT--AND EVEN SOMEONE ELSE KILLED ON THAT BASE--A MOM IN HER VEHICLE.

THESE OTHER CASES WERE ALSO MISHANDLED WITH NO PROPER INVESTIGATION, NO ACCOUNTABILITY, NO CHARGES OR CONVICTIONS.

THESE OTHER IMPROPERLY HANDLED CASES WERE BROUGHT TO LIGHT AT THE NEWS CONFERENCE, WHEN VANESSA GUILLEN'S ATTORNEY MENTIONED THEM.

SIMPLY PUT: WHEN THERE IS A PATTERN, THERE IS A PROBLEM. AND THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM--A THREAT TO LIFE, SAFETY, AND WELL-BEING.

AND IT IS OBVIUOS THAT WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HANDLING THESE OTHER CASES, AND WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR SOLDIERS ON THAT BASE, WERE NOT DOING THEIR JOB.

YES--SHUTTING IT DOWN WILL NOT BRING BACK OUR BELOVED SOLDIERS WHO WERE MURDERED. TRUE. BUT SHUTTING IT DOWN WILL BRING A CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT MESSAGE TO CONGRESS AND TO THE PRESIDENT--THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

AND THE MESSAGE IS THAT FORT HOOD IS A REPEATED CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER AND THREAT TO THE SAFETY OF OUR SOLDIERS ON THAT BASE. THIS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND INTOLERABLE.

LIKE IT WAS MENTIONED AT THE NEWS CONFERENCE: "ONE LIFE IS ONE TOO MANY". YET, HERE, WE HAVE SEVERAL SIMILAR, DISTURBING CASES THAT WERE NOT HANDLED PROPERLY.

THOSE WHO DEPEND ON FORT HOOD ON THEIR LIVELIHOOD NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK SUBSISTENCE IN OTHER AREAS.

VANESSA GUILLEN, GREGORY MORALES, AND THE OTHER VICTIMS, NO LONGER HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THEIR LIVES AND FUTURE WERE TAKEN AWAY......

Noe Rodriguez

My best wishes and prayers go out to the Guillen family. Closing down the base will not bring all those soldiers whose life have been taken away. We can not hold everyone whose livelihood depends on Fort Hood for support be responsible for what happened. Yes there will always be people above us who believe that they are above the law, but because of that 1%, are we going to hold the other 99? Most of us that live here in Killeen know very well that we are a city made up of all different ethnicities and backgrounds. We have different values and customs and our opinions may not always please others. I agree that those responsible have to pay for what they did, but to punish a much greater majority is not the proper way.

Bhinzman10@gmail.com

They think a petition is going to shut down a military base- that's cute.

mundom01

MY PROFOUND CONDOLENCES AND HEARTFELT PRAYERS TO THE LOVING FAMILIES AND FRIENDS OF VANESSA GUILLEN AND GREGORGY MORALES.

I SHARE YOUR SENTIMENTS...

"DO NOT BE AMAZED AT THIS, FOR THE HOUR IS COMING IN WHICH ALL THOSE IN THE MEMORIAL TOMBS WILL HEAR HIS VOICE AND COME OUT, THOSE WHO DID GOOD THINGS TO A RESURRECTION OF LIFE..." --JESUS CHRIST/JOHN 5:28-29a

"AND THERE IS NOT A CREATION THAT IS HIDDEN FROM HIS SIGHT, BUT ALL THINGS ARE NAKED AND OPENLY EXPOSED TO THE EYES OF THE ONE TO WHOM WE MUST GIVE AN ACCOUNT."

--HEBREWS 4:13

"THE EYES OF JEHOVAH ARE EVERYWHERE, WATCHING BOTH THE BAD AND THE GOOD."

--PROVERBS 15:3

"SO, THEN, EACH OF US WILL RENDER AN ACCOUNT FOR HIMSELF TO GOD."

--ROMANS 14:12

"PRAISE BE THE GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF TENDER MERCIES AND THE GOD OF ALL COMFORT, WHO COMFORTS US IN ALL OUR TRIALS..."

--2 CORINTHIANS 1:3-4a

"GOD IS OUR REFUGE AND STRENGTH, A HELP THAT IS READILY FOUND IN TIMES OF DISTRESS."

--PSALMS 46:1

MIS MAS PROFUNDAS CONDOLENCIAS Y SINCERAS ORACIONES DE CORAZON, PARA LAS FAMILIAS Y AMIGOS AMOROSOS DE VANESSA GUILLEN Y GREGORY MORALES. LES ACOMPANIO SUS SENTIMIENTOS...

"NO SE ASOMBREN DE ESTO, PORQUE VIENE LA HORA EN QUE TODOS LOS QUE ESTAN EN EN LAS TUMBAS OIRAN SU VOZ Y SALDRAN: LOS QUE HAYAN HECHO COSAS BUENAS, PARA UNA RESURRECCION DE VIDA..."

--JESUCRISTO/JUAN 5: 28-29a

"Y NINGUNA COSA CREADA ESTA ESCONDIDA DE LA VISTA DE EL, SINO QUE TODAS LAS COSAS ESTAN DESNUDAS Y TOTALMENTE EXPUESTAS A LOS OJOS DE AQUEL A QUIEN TENEMOS QUE RENDIR CUENTAS."

--HEBREOS 4:13

"LOS OJOS DE JEHOVA ESTAN EN TODAS PARTES OBSERVANDO A LOS MALOS Y A LOS BUENOS."

--PROVERBIOS 15: 3

"DE MANERA QUE CADA UNO DE NOSOTROS RENDIRA CUENTAS DE SI MISMO A DIOS."

--ROMANOS 14:12

"ALABADO SEA EL DIOS Y PADRE DE NUESTRO SENOR JESUCRISTO, EL PADRE DE TIERNAS MISERICORDIAS Y EL DIOS DE TODO CONSUELO. EL NOS CONSUELA EN. TODAS NUESTRAS PRUEBAS..."

--2 CORINTIOS 1:3-4a

"DIOS ES NUESTRO REFUGIO Y NUESTRA FUERZA, UNA AYUDA SIEMPRE DISPONIBLE EN TIEMPOS DE ANGUSTIA."

--SALMO 46:1

mundom01

TO fredd44:

A HORRIFIC TRAGEDY HAS OCCURRED AT FORT HOOD ARMY BASE--THIS IS NOT A "LAUGHING" MATTER, NOR IS ANYTHING IN RELATION TO IT.

THIS IS NOTHING TO HAVE "A GOOD LAUGH" ABOUT.

IT TAKES A MORALLY INSENSITIVE, HEARTLESS, CALLOUS, CRUEL, INDECENT, AND INHUMANE INDIVIDUAL TO "LAUGH" AT SUCH A HEINOUS CRIME, ITS TRAGIC CONSEQUENCES, OR ANYTHING IN RELATION TO IT, INCLUDING THE RIGHTFUL AND PROPER REQUEST OF SHUTTING DOWN THAT INADEQUATE, INCOMPETENT, AND YES--UNSAFE MILITARY BASE.

YOUR PATHETIC AND BARBARIC REACTION IS BOTH REVOLTING AND AN ABOMINATION.

A PRECIOUS LIFE, AN HONORABLE SOLDIER, WAS FIERCELY VICTIMIZED AND BRUTALLY MURDERED INSIDE THAT MILITARY BASE, AND THESE UNCONSCIONABLE, VILE CRIMES WERE TREATED WITH THE UPMOST INDIFFERENCE, APATHY, INSENSITIVITY, IRRESPONSIBLY, AND WITH A TOTAL LACK OF RESPECT AND REGARD FOR LIFE AND SAFETY BY, APPARENTLY, ITS CHAIN OF COMMAND--ITS MILITARY SUPERIORS.

IT IS OBVIOUS TO ME THAT THERE IS A STRONG, DANGEROUS, DEFICIT OF PROFESSIONAL, SOUND LEADERSHIP AND GOOD JUDGEMENT AT FORT HOOD.

I DON'T CARE HOW BIG THIS MILITARY BASE IS, OR HOW LARGE ITS INTERNAL POPULATION IS.

LIFE, SAFETY, AND CIVIL RIGHTS ARE BIGGER THAN ANY MILITARY BASE AND LARGER THAN ITS INTERNAL POPULATION. YOU MAY NOT THINK SO, MR.fred44, BUT MOST US DO HAVE MORAL STANDARDS, SOUNDNESS OF MIND, DECENCY, AND THE RIGHT HEART CONDITION, ALONG WITH THE ZEAL TO PURSUE FULL JUSTICE AND COMPLETE VINDICATION FOR INNOCENT VICTIMS LIKE VANESSA GUILLEN AND GREGORY MORALES--ANOTHER HONORABLE, NOBLE FORT HOOD ARMY SOLDIER WHO, LIKE VANESSA, WAS VICTIMIZED AND BRUTALLY MURDERED IN KILLEEN BACK IN AUGUST 2019.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT RANDOMLY ATTACKING A

US MILITARY BASE OR ITS INTERNAL CONSTITUENTS.

THIS IS ABOUT PURSUING ACCOUNTABILITY, FULL JUSTICE AND COMPLETE VINDICATION FOR VANESSA GUILLEN AND AND GREGORY MORALES, AND THEIR FAMILIES, THROUGH AN AGGRESSIVE AND COMPETENT INVESTIGATON, CONDUCTED BY POLITICAL AND EXTERNAL, FEDERAL, INVESTIGATIVE SOURCES, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN CHARGES AND CONVICTIONS TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW--UP TO AND INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE CLOSING OF FORT HOOD ARMY BASE.

THIS IS ALSO ABOUT ENSURING THE SAFETY, PROTECTION, AND CIVIL RIGHTS OF MANY NOBLE, YOUNG SERVICEMEN AND SERVICEWOMEN, LIKE VANESSA AND GREGORY, BY IMPLEMENTING REFORM, LEGISLATION, AND PREVENTIVE MEASURES IN EFFORTS TO PREVENT THESE ABHORRENT CRIMES AND TRAGEDIES FROM REOCCURRING--EVEN IT MEANS SHUTTING DOWN FORT HOOD BECAUSE OF ITS LACK OF SAFETY, PROTECTION, AND GOOD LEADERSHIP.

THESE SOLDIERS CAN BE RELOCATED TO OTHER

US MILITARY BASES THAT HAVE PROVEN TO BE SAFE, COMPETENT, AND RESPONSIBLE MILITARY FACILITIES.

FURTHERMORE, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT "WHINING"--YOU ARE. THESE PEOPLE ARE VANESSA'S AND GREGORY'S LOVING FAMILY, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, SCHOOLMATES, COWORKERS, AND MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO LOVE THEM AND CARE ABOUT THEM VERY MUCH, AND WHO WILL UNRELENTINGLY PURSUE FULL JUSTICE AND COMPLETE VINDICATION FOR BOTH VANESSA AND FOR GREGORY.

MOREOVER, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE STATISTICS SHOW REGARDING "ABDUCTIONS, MURDERS, RAPE, AND A HUNDRED OTHER CRIMES" COMMITTED IN COMPARISON BETWEEN MILITARY BASES AND THE CIVILIAN POPULATION OUTSIDE OF THESE BASES.

EVERY SINGLE CRIME, ESPECIALLY IF THE NATURE OF THE CRIME INVOLVES SEXUAL HARASSMENT, RAPE, MURDER, AND/OR ABDUCTION, IS VERY MUCH WORTHY OF FULL ATTENTION, AN AGGRESSIVE INVESTIGATION, AND THE LEGAL PROCESS OF CHARGES AND CONVICTIONS TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. AND BECAUSE OF THE DANGEROUS NATURE, GRAVITY, AND SERIOUSNESS OF THESE CRIMES, THEY SHOULD ALL BE CONSTITUTED AS RED-ALERT, HIGH-PRIORITY, CRIMINAL CASES--ESPECIALLY IF SUCH CRIMES ARE COMMITTED INSIDE A US MILITARY BASE WHERE, APPARENTLY AND SUPPOSEDLY, IS A HIGHLY, CONTROLLED WORKING ENVIRONMENT.

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE AND EMPOWERED TO PROTECT AND ENSURE THE SAFETY OF VANNESSA GUILLEN AND GREGORY MORALES ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO EITHER VICTIMIZED AND MURDERED THEM OR, ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENABLING SUCH CRIMES TO OCCUR, BY TURNING A "BLIND-EYE" AND "DRAGGING-FEET" IN TAKING IMMEDIATE, CORRECTIVE ACTION AND AGGRESSIVELY RESTRAINING THE PROBLEM, IN EFFORTS TO AVOID IT FROM ESCALATING INTO SUCH TRAGIC OUTCOMES.

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE ENDOWED AND ARE RESPONSIBLE TO PROTECT AND PROVIDE A SAFE, SECURE, AND PRODUCTIVE WORKING ENVIRONMENT FOR VANESSA AND GREGORY, ARE THE SAME PERPETRATORS WHO VIOLATED THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS AND MURDERED THEM--WHETHER OR NOT THESE PERPETRATORS ACTED DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY IN COMMITTING THESE CRIMES.

FAILURE TO COMPLY AND COOPERATE WITH LAWS, MILITARY REGULATIONS, CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS, AND CIVIL RIGHTS CAN MAKE YOU EITHER A FACILITATOR AND/OR AN ENABLER.

YOU ALSO EXPRESSED CONCERN OVER THE TOWN OF KILLEEN BECOMING "A GHOST TOWN OVERNIGHT". YOU SEEM TO WORRY ABOUT THE ECONOMIC OPERATIONS OF A LOCAL TOWN. THE REST OF US ARE CONCERNED WITH PURSUING FULL JUSTICE AND COMPLETE VINDICATION FOR BOTH VANESSA GUILLEN AND GREGORY MORALES--TWO NOBLE, HONORABLE, AND YOUNG ARMY SOLDIERS WHO WERE VICTIMIZED AND SAVAGELY MURDERED WHILE THEY PROUDLY SERVED TO PROTECT THE US GOVERNMENT AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE--INCLUDING YOUR TOWN OF KILLEEN. THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, HUMANS LIVES AND THEIR SAFETY HAS A MUCH HIGHER VALUE THAN ANY GEOGRAPHIC TOWN AND/OR ITS ECONOMIC GROWTH.

IN ADDITION, YOU ALSO EXPRESSED FEAR REGARDING "ABANDONED HOMES" (IN KILLEEN) BEING "TAKEN OVER BY DRUG GANGS AND 'PEOPLE WANTING A FREE RIDE' ". YOU NEED TO BE SERIOUSLY WORRIED ABOUT MURDEROUS CRIMINALS WHO WEAR A FINE, MILITARY

UNIFORM--LIKE THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MURDERS OF VANESSA AND GREGORY. AGAIN, I WILL REITERATE: SOME WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE TO PROTECT AND PREVENT THESE CRIMES FROM OCCURRING--ARE COMMITTING THESE CRIMES THEMSELVES.

MOST OF US CAN EASILY DETECT A VICIOUS DRUG GANG OR A DANGEROUS, CRIMINAL GROUP. BUT OFTENTIMES, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DISCERN THE TRUE PERSON BEHIND A UNIFORM. THAT IS MORE DISTURBING--AND DANGEROUS.

IN ADDITION, I REALLY DON'T THINK THIS PETITION WOULD "GET 1 MILLION SIGNATURES". I HONESTLY BELIEVE IT COULD REACH FAR MORE IN THE MILLIONS. YOU ARE A PERSON OF VERY LITTLE FAITH, AND SEEM TO NOT FEAR GOD.

I AM AN HONORABLE VETERAN OF THE US NAVY.

I SERVED WITH US NAVY DEEP SEA DIVERS AND WORKED WITH US MILITARY SPECIAL FORCES.

I ALSO PARTICIPATED IN US NAVAL ATLANTIC FLEET OPERATIONS. I ALSO WORKED AS A PHARMACY TECHNICIAN FOR ALMOST 25 YEARS--IN RETAIL, CLINICAL, AND INSTITUTIONAL PHARMACY.

PRIOR TO THAT, FOR OVER NINE YEARS, I WAS A CATHOLIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER, AN ASSISTANT SCOUTMASTER, AN ASSISTANT CUBMASTER, AND A MERIT BADGE COUNSELOR FOR THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA.

I AM NOW A MINISTER OF GOD'S HOLY BOOK, THE BIBLE.

MY ENTIRE FAMILY PROUDLY AND HONORABLY SERVED IN THE US MILITARY.

MY DAD PROUDLY AND HONORABLY SERVED DURING WWII AND, HE SERVED IN THE US ARMY INFANTRY DURING THE KOREAN WAR, WHERE HE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN COMBAT.

MR. fredd44, GOD HAS THE LAST WORD IN ALL MATTERS. HIS DIVINE JUSTICE SUPERCEDES ANY MAN-MADE, LEGAL SYSTEM.

WHAT MAN CANNOT RESOLVE, GOD CAN RESOLVE.

AND WHAT MAN ATTEMPTS TO HIDE, GOD WILL REAVEAL IT ALL.

MR. fredd44, OPEN YOUR HEART TO VANESSA GUILLEN, TO GREGORY MORALES, AND TO THEIR GRIEVING FAMILIES.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, OPEN YOUR HEART TO GOD, AND HE WILL HELP YOU.

GOD-FORBID, IT COULD HAVE BEEN YOUR DAUGHTER, OR YOU SON.

THINK ABOUT IT.

Leo144

Closing this base solves nothing. It's a city unto itself, and like all cities, there will be crime of all sorts. Have to say this though, probably a lot less crime than that of cities with the same population due its military culture. Justice has been served in this case, the suspects have been identified. It is known what happened. She was killed by a co-worker. To close this base because of this is pure silliness. Should we empty out cities and blame local government for every murder? Put the blame where it belongs, on the two idiots who did the deed. Closing the base affects tens of thousands economically, our national security and readiness, and existence of Killeen itself, it's a military city. This young lady joined the army to serve her country, I doubt she would want this type of hysterics.

Sunn27

Hopefully the family gets justice. Yes, murders,rapes, sexual harassments occur everywhere but this young beautiful woman was killed ON THE BASE..and they aren't able to provide surveillance? You're telling me the where they keep guns has no cameras..so if a gun was stolen they can't check cameras? 🤔 Interesting. If you read the confession made by Cecily Aguilar she allegedly states AAron hit Vanessa with a hammer and killed her in the armory room and splattered blood everywhere. This means had the investigation been done properly wouldn't they have found those blood traces? Secondly, why did it take 2 months for someone from the Army to post up about her being missing? Shady.. Vanessa Guillen deserves better. She was serving the country!

Hacksaw

These people don't seem to understand the Army CID has procedures to follow. You don't investigate a murder/abduction case by constantly announcing your ideas and leads in the press.

Real life is not an episode of Blue Bloods where Danny Reagan solves every case in less than an hour.

fred44

Shut down Fort Hood? The largest Army base in the US with more than 50,000 soldiers? OMG, that gave me a good laugh this morning!! These people don't have a clue what they are whining about. Abductions, murders, rape and a hundred other crimes occur in the civilian population at a far far higher rate than on ANY military base. Can you imaging if Fort Hood actually were shut down? Killeen would become a ghost town overnight. Literally. Then gradually, the abandoned homes would be taken over by drug gangs and people wanting a free ride. They could get 1 million signatures on their petition, but Fort Hood will not be shut down!!!

Sunn27

Everyone is entitled to have an opinion. I'm sure if you were in their shoes you would do anything to try to get justice. The girl was killed on base..thats nothing to laugh about it was a life taken...a very young life taken too soon. Please be more considerate. I'm sure that if it was your family member who had been in Vanessa's place you wouldnt consider it "whining".

Bhinzman10@gmail.com

Amen. Thought the same thing.

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