Local gun rights and First Amendment activists held a demonstration on Saturday afternoon in front of Killeen Police Department headquarters following the arrest of local activist Kevin Duane Butler, who goes by his YouTube channel name “No Question Abaudit.” The protesters were also demonstrating their distaste of no-knock police raids, which are no longer used by Killeen police.

The event — called “Hold KPD Accountable” — was attended by about 12 people and organized by local organizer and member of Open Carry Texas, James Everard.

Last Tuesday, Everard and Open Carry Texas President C.J. Grisham, along with Butler, were at Killeen City Hall to present a petition to the City Council for amending the city ordinance that got Butler arrested. Police say Butler interfered with a KPD traffic stop last month when the YouTuber voiced aloud that passengers in a car don’t have to show ID to police.

“The Killeen police has had multiple incidents with citizens of Killeen, mainly affecting those who are people of color,” Everard told the Herald previously, “I’m not the primary protagonist of this event, I’m just the organizer bringing people and groups out to air their grievances with Killeen Police Department.”

Butler is part of the online “auditing” community, who go out and film police officers or other public officials.

Butler along with two other members of the auditing community came out to Saturday’s demonstration.

A Bell County man who goes by the name “Foul Mouth Veteran” who was featured in one of Butler’s videos, also came to document the event.

Foul Mouth Veteran said that he considers himself an activist or a “citizen journalist” rather than an auditor. The Herald was unable to get his real name.

“What brought us out here specifically was the unlawful arrest of No Question Abaudit as he was exercising his God given rights to film police or the rights of free press as the First Amendment states clearly,” Foul Mouth Veteran said, “Nobody wants another George Floyd, another Sandra Bland, or another Vanessa Guillen, so what better way to keep the government operating the way they’re supposed to than to hold them accountable?”

Nick Bezzel, the president of the African-American gun club Elmer Pratt Geronimo Pistol and Rifle Club Central Texas, came out to the demonstration along with a few club members to show their support.

In the beginning of the event, there seemed to be a disagreement between the Foul Mouth Veteran and Bezzel over discussions on race. Bezzel said there needs to be discussions and for there to be a realization that things haven’t always been OK.

“It doesn’t matter if you’re right or if you’re left or if you’re Black or you’re white, they only care if you have that blue line,” Foul Mouth Veteran said to Bezzel.

Bezzel responded to Foul Mouth Veteran: “I’m glad that you want to help but let’s be real about the things that we are talking about and that these fights apply to us (African-Americans) a lot of the time and I don’t have an issue with allies, but let’s not act like things didn’t happen in the past.”

But both men did find common ground regarding the case of Marvin Guy, a Killeen Black man awaiting trial after being accused of fatally shooting a KPD police detective during a no-knock warrant in 2014. The Killeen City Council banned KPD from using no-knock warrants last year.

In speaking with the Herald about his conversation with Foul Mouth Veteran and what brought his club out to the event, Bezzel said that people need to have these uncomfortable conversations more to get a better understanding on what the issues are.

“What he is saying is true about the government, but let’s be honest here and say which group of people the government is targeting. It isn’t white people, it’s Black people,” Bezzel said, “We can’t just have this thought where everything is great now because it’s not. White people overall have a better quality of life than Black people so our fight, even in some instances may be the same, they are going to be starkly different because we are fighting for something different.”

When it comes to the auditing community, Everard does admit that there are some that are in it for the wrong reasons. Everard mentioned that these people tend to go out and harass cops and edit their videos to where look like they are in the right.

The event was peaceful as protesters, many of them armed and carrying rifles, gathered around and talked to one another.

While the Herald was there, no members of the Killeen Police Department came to talk to the protesters

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Alvin

@Hacksaw  and @Noe Rodriguez: Yes I believe that you are both correct, but @Noe Rodriguez: You refer to yourself as an 'American Mexican', why don't you see yourself as 'An American that is of Mexican descent'? In my eyes, we are all Americans, no separation of ethnicity, and if anyone want to use that designation then you should not be in this country. Yes I feel strongly about this as I am an American thru and thru and that our Constitution reflects this, but through the ages, with the resolutions that have been passed, it no longer reflects the Constitution as was written, such as the language that was introduced in 1967 that refers to 'the Dual language that was introduced. Back in 1907, you did not hear any reference to 'Dualism of anything', so why s there a resolution introduced that in effect 'changed' the reference from 'One Nation under God to a form of 'Dualism'?

But back to the subject at hand. In this regard, what role does ethnicity have to do with the America that was proposed? Are we not 'created in God's image' so what does one's 'color' have to do with the right and purpose of any of us? The main objection I have toward this town is 'The lack of anyone's motivation as to getting some business and industry into this sleepy bedroom community where everyone is 'forced' to find work in other locations. I say 'If you live here, then you should be employed here, but 'there is no work, except clerical anywhere in this town and I fault our city government and KEDC with 'taking the city's money and running where they divide up the spoils. Yes KEDC, you have been doing that since 1992 and of the millions that you have proffered, what can you show.

And yes @ Hacksaw: Copy: 'They don't want to make things better. They've just discovered a way to get attention.' You are I believe correct in your assertion that for all of the bluster and provado, It doesn't amount to a hill of beans and just keeps the turmoil going as it has been for ages.

So let's all concentrate on 'setting this city back on the right track and move forward as to the future of this town and our children for it's up to us to direct the education of our young ones and if we do not take care then we will have failed.

Hacksaw

What was the point of all this? Standing around in a parking lot arguing amongst themselves just makes them all look like troublemakers. Nobody from the police department came out to speak with them. Of course they hold their big event on a Saturday afternoon when most of the administrative staff, with whom they should be speaking, are off for the weekend.

Instead of making an appointment with someone in the department who could actually make a change in policy they stand around trying to create enough of a disturbance to create a reaction which gets more "hits" for their videos.

They don't want to make things better. They've just discovered a way to get attention.

Alvin

Copy: 'Activists hold demonstration outside of KPD Headquarters'/

Copy: “What brought us out here specifically was the unlawful arrest of No Question Abaudit as he was exercising his God given rights to film police or the rights of free press as the First Amendment states clearly,” Foul Mouth Veteran said, “Nobody wants another George Floyd, another Sandra Bland, or another Vanessa Guillen, so what better way to keep the government operating the way they’re supposed to than to hold them accountable?”

Continuation of copy: “It doesn’t matter if you’re right or if you’re left or if you’re Black or you’re white, they only care if you have that blue line,” Foul Mouth Veteran said to Bezzel.

Continuation of copy: 'Bezzel responded to Foul Mouth Veteran: “I’m glad that you want to help but let’s be real about the things that we are talking about and that these fights apply to us (African-Americans) a lot of the time and I don’t have an issue with allies, but let’s not act like things didn’t happen in the past.” End of copy.

No I disagree, that is not what you are about for 'in my opinion' you are only interested in continuing the civil unrest that has been growing throughout the ages, for you think that you are the suppressed, that you think that you are owed something because of your race that predates the civil war as you want it to continue, and because of this, 'You will never be satisfied'.

Copy: 'But both men did find common ground regarding the case of Marvin Guy, a Killeen Black man awaiting trial after being accused of fatally shooting a KPD police detective during a no-knock warrant in 2014. The Killeen City Council banned KPD from using no-knock warrants last year.' End of copy.

Now here is a case for demonstrating about for I too disagree. Let's be honest that 'every man should have his day in court regardless of color, of race, of ethnicity. Why are they holding this individual, without giving him his due, his day in court? I don't agree that 'It is because of his color because it could happen to any individual'. So let's see if the courts will see to the swift conclusion and give this individual 'His Day In Court' and conclude this injustice.

But let's get back to the root of the problem, the insurrection:

Copy: “What he is saying is true about the government, but let’s be honest here and say which group of people the government is targeting. It isn’t white people, it’s Black people,” Bezzel said, “We can’t just have this thought where everything is great now because it’s not. White people overall have a better quality of life than Black people so our fight, even in some instances may be the same, they are going to be starkly different because we are fighting for something different.” End of copy.

To quote: 'White people overall have a better quality of life than Black people so our fight, even in some instances may be the same, they are going to be starkly different because we are fighting for something different. What is so different because you have been complaining ever since the first boat load of you landed on the shores of this continent. Abraham Lincoln gave you freedom, and still you complain. You have a special month long celebration, and just last year you were awarded a special day, June 19, 2021, to celebrate so do have cause to complain about?

Copy: 'When it comes to the auditing community, Everard does admit that there are some that are in it for the wrong reasons. Everard mentioned that these people tend to go out and harass cops and edit their videos to where look like they are in the right.' End of copy.

Now there is a reason to quibble about, the fact that: 'these people tend to go out and harass cops and edit their videos to where look like they are in the right'. Yes with the progress that's been made they do possess the ability to give people the disoriented view of 'what is right and what is wrong in the eyes of some people'. Yes there are some who are in it for the wrong reasons' so does this fit for your cause? Are you in it for the right reason or for the wrong reason? Time o stop and think about it don't you think.

Do you think you have equality with the white person or do you think that you are still the downtrodden person you have always been? Do you now have the vote? Do you possess equality when it comes to equal education, equal job opportunities, equal unemployment benefits, and equal socioeconomic benefits that includes equal pay, equal maternity benefits, and so on for it was just a few decades ago that men were the ones who went to work to earn a living while women tended to the household duties. Now women have the right to fight in the military, fly fighter jets, be policewomen and fire women, yet when it comes to the birthing of children, they get 'special privileges like maternity leave for weeks. Now decades ago it was unheard of to 'give a man maternity time off for the birth of a child. It was designated 'the woman's job to tend to the young' while the husband goes to work. This is but one instance, in my opinion, in 'what's wrong with this world we are living in today'.

Yes there are inequality's that exist in today's world but, in my opinion, it cannot be solved with the issuance of directives or resolutions, but by everybody pulling together to 'makes things right'.

Noe Rodriguez

As an American Mexican, I have never been oppressed or been treated any different than other ethnic groups. I retired here in Killeen for almost 20 years. My children all went to schools and graduated here. But this past 6 years, division has taken our community and country. I love Killeen and all its got to offer, but I do feel sorry for my kids cause there are no high paying jobs. I have seen our education go from bad to worse. And people's attitudes have gone into Karen mode. All my kids work in retail jobs and there isn't a day when they talk about someone getting mad, or getting in their face. Too much division and misunderstanding does not help. Killeen is a multicultural city with all kinds of different backgrounds, traditions, and people of small and large cities. I come from a small town in south Texas where population of American Mexicans is 90% 10%white. But I have learned to get acquainted, work, and fight along all other ethnicities. Why can't we just ask God for forgiveness of what has happened in the past? I believe and have faith He is the only one that can get us out of this situation. And yes I believe in our constitution and that God has to be brought in our government business, schools, the pledge of allegiance. My opinion is not to offend anyone. I'm expressing my view and freedom of speech. God Bless everyone.

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