Killeen residents will decide in November whether to decriminalize low-level amounts marijuana after City Council members on Tuesday unanimously voted against adopting an initiative ordinance.

The vote was 6-0, with Councilman Ramon Alvarez absent from the meeting.

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jonathan76542

Posession or use of marijuana should be decriminalized. That doesnt mean decriminalization driving under the influence of any drug. Thst doesnt mean you cant be charged for public intoxication or disturbing the peace if you've smoked too much just like if you have too alcohol and are causing public issues. If your not of legal age its the same punishment for underage age drinking. Alcohol has been around for decades and we dont control anybodys abuse of it because you can't control anybodys use or abuse of anything to include cigarettes, vape pens, over the counter medicines or anything else. Fort Hood and the military must abide by military rules. If soldiers feel they can violate military rules then they are put out. You're old enough to carry a gun into war so you are old enough to know the rules you must live in military life when it comes to alcohol as well as marijuana or anything else the military says tou can not have. They already know they can not live by all civilian standards. Marijuana is not a gateway drug. You do not get hooked on marijuana and need something more. People who want or need something more than marijuana have an issue that marijuana was never going to solve so marijuana was just a step they took to a harder substance that they feel does solve their issue. We dont criminalize alcohol for being a gateway. We dont criminalize nicotine for being a gateway. If guns, alcohol, and cigarettes dont kill people, then marijuana definitely doesnt make the list of drugs that kill people. Alcohol is proven to be a gateway and we stil dont criminalize it. Dont be a hypocrite about alcohol, cigarettes, or marijuana but the reality is that most people are hypocrites who dont care about their hypocrite standards but they want you to abide by their standards so that they can feel happiness that the world abides by their opinions.

don76550

Marijuana is indeed a dangerous gateway drug. There are no hard drug abusers that did not start on marijuana. Drugs are destroying this nation and are one of the reasons for the high volume of crime in this country. People like Minor like to whine that drug arrests impact mostly on minorities. That argument is nonsense. All those who are arrested for drug possession volunteered for that arrest by violating the law. More minorities are arrested for murder and robbery also. Should we stop arresting those criminals when their arrests exceed their percentage of the population? It is especially disturbing to me that council members Wilkerson, Alvarez, Adams and county commissioner candidate Minor signed this pro drug abuse petition. They will not have my vote.

J. FFreedom

Yea once again I encourage you to educate and do research on all of you're clams, they all have been proven to be false, cannabis is indeed not a gateway drug, and cannabis is widely used by millions of people just so happens that's criminals use it as well, all of these negative Assumptions made about cannabis was ingrained into the Americans minds by the government in the mid 1930s call "marijuana madness" it was a tool to brainwashed the masses to think cannabis is a bad thing kinda like all these negative comments are doing now. There is a reason why cannabis is proceeding to be legalized in many states and made a priority topic in today's society, it's because people are finally educating themselves on the topic and realizing the facts and the scientific evidence that's cannabis is indeed a positive useful thing, alot of these elderly people need to stop living in the pass and catching up to today's world and get with the program, until that happens this world and society will never grow.

dailymajor

FFreedom, you are full of balogna, to use a nice word..., pushed by the druggie propaganda machine....There is government evidence that weed alters judgement, affects body reaction time, can become addictive, and lead to harder drugs. Those are facts......What's to keep a person from smoking 3 or 4 joints, then getting in their car and driving and smoking another couple...before they cause a wreck, perhaps killing other people....You speak of all the people that are in favor of weed legalization...I imagine the vast majority of those same people voted for Biden, also...and how has that turned ouit?

J. FFreedom

Hey go worry about the drugs that are out there killing people, not the ones that are healing people

J. FFreedom

Yea the problem I see with these opposing comments, is they are referring to cannabis as if it's a dangerous substance, and it's only around because of bad people and dangerous gang members, wich in fact isn't the case at all. sounds kind like they are speaking with ignorance about the plant itself, because you will be surprised on how many of you're average "Joe" and "Jane", with no criminal background, Good old fashion human being, Partakes in using cannabis for their medicinal purposes, it's just unfortunate every time they take their medication they feel like a criminal. I challenge every killeen council member, and any anti cannabis usesers to get on a computer or phone and Google the history and the medical side of particularly the cannabis plant itself and educate yourself and I promise you will realize how amazing and God sent this plant was created to help use humans on plant earth, and should not be looked at the same way as all the real schedule 1 hard drugs that are scientifically proven to harm and even kill unlike cannabis, it's a complete difference substance that is most definitely misunderstood.

dailymajor

FFFFreeom, I would consider medical marijuana different then completely legalizing it, altho, I have talked with several doctors that don't exactly believe like you do, either about the legalization or pain management. .... Are you saying that weed relieves pain like no other medicines that a person can get from a medical doctor?. ..Since you are for God given plants, ..the next time you feel anxious or stressed, find some castor bean or oleander, and chew it to relieve your stress. .................

The way I understand the proposed ordinance, a policeman cannot arrest or searcj a person or their car because they smell weed in the car..is that true?..Would that mean that a policeman could stop a car for a violaton, smell weed, and not act on that smell, while the driver might have 10 lbs. of the stink weed under their seat or cocaine in the trunk of their car? ...Are we really that stupid?... ....Don't give me all of your propaganda about marijuana, I have dealt with and worked with young people..from 12 year olds, to.teenagers, ... as well as adults that had their lives altered in such very negative, hurtful ways. ...Weed changed their lives...and it was not for the better. ..So save your liberal propaganda.

J. FFreedom

No I don't use cannabis, I don't need it, I have no medical problems or mental issues that would encourage me to use it until I need to. And my honest opinion before anybody starts taking about using cannabis and driving you need to address the elephant in the room and start worrying about the alcohol that is perfectly legal at every store in America that's killing millions of people each year, and for police I feel bad for yall, cannabis is absolutely wasting you're time, there is seriously more important things that yall need to be taking care of then worrying about cannabis. If you look at all the stats that has legalization of cannabis it is regulated and has set rules, just like alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, they have age restrictions and parameters even though they are broken, the problem is because it is not regulated the kids will run to the black market where there are no age restrictions., look when it boils down to it illegal or not it will always be around, the war on drugs is a failure l, might as well legalized it and regulated it

dailymajor

Yes, alcohol contributes to thousands of automobile accidents and deaths. So, by your inane reasoning, if you have heart trouble, you wouldn''t mind having cancer along with it? Guess you would be ok with that?....So,the key to having less dependency on drugs is more enforcement..or less enforcement?...You are right, as long as weak, liberal, limp people with poor judgement make our laws drug useage will grow, and that is a very scary thought. ......Truthfully, would you want your children smoking weed when they are 15 or 16, smoking before going to school in the mornings?...How many,what percentage, of meth, crack, and cocaine users do you think started out on weed?. Don't lie....If one hundred kids started trying weed in the next year, that would not have, some becoming addicted, some going on to harder drugs, some becoming addicted for life, ... because of this ordinance, ..would you still be for the legalization of weed?

J. FFreedom

Yea you're speaking in hypotheticals, so I see you're reasoning moot, and it's funny how you're using cancer in conjunction with cannabis while cannabis is the medicine thats aiding in curing cancer. Lol just face it there is not a right or wrong when referring to cannabis so people just need to let it be, and be available for the people who need it and stop trying control somthing that is uncontrollable

dailymajor

No hypotheticals, actually, just facts. ... I don't put out false statements as you are prone to do. ... Weed does not help in "curing" cancer. ...There is a right or wrong when considering legalizing a drug that can be sooo harmful, and...it is very controllable, if people have the wisdom and courage to do it......BTW, just thought I would mention, last night on Court Cases, there were two guys, in two separate cases, that killed pedestrians while driving high under the influence of marijuana...one child and one adult. ...For some reason the judge didn't consider smoking weed a good excuse for vehicular homicide.

Aggie97whoop

Political ploy. The city can't approve it, it's illegal. It was always designed to go to the ballot. Minor even asked the city to deny it so it would go to the ballot even though he's responsible for the petition! Even if it passes with 100% of the vote, the city will have to repeal it because it's illegal. The police department has stayed multiple times it will follow State law regardless of what the city or voters approve. Every other law enforcement agency (sheriff, Constables, DPS, Marshalls Federal agents, MP's CID, etc) will still uphold the State and Federal law regardless, so residents will be put in peril if they think they are immune to enforcement. The city risks losing state and federal funding which the city depends upon if it let's the ordinance stand. This was always an exercise in futility just to energize a base to vote in November. The question is, "Which base will be more energized?" I don't think Killeen residents will stand for this attempt to dupe them into supporting Oliver, Minor, or Wilson. Is that the kind of elected official you want working for you?!?

Gandalf

Decriminalization doesn't mean it's legal. It's still against the law, but for less than so many grams. You don't think the gangs in Killeen or Harker Heights will want a big piece of selling those 10 grams and not have to worry about getting caught. Now, if the state government would legalize Marijuana it would be regulated and sold in stores..yes it would probably be taxed as well but there wouldn't be gang members shooting at each other on our streets either. I left big city life to get away from stuff like that and don't want it here either!

GeauxrillaFella

Another meaningless political plot.

To overcome the state and federal ban on whacky weed, the federal law would need to be repealed or changed, along with the Texas state law outlawing whacky weed.

Does no one see the futility in this silliness???

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Aggie97whoop

More than futility, direct attempt to sucker the voters under false pretenses to benefit Oliver's PAC and Minor and Wilson to get their base out to vote. Most petition signers are just now finding out what ramifications the proposed petition will have if it is passed, then finding out it won't stand even if it is passed! I certainly won't be voting for a political candidate who has outright lied to get signatures on a petition that they knew would never get passed!

dailymajor

Oliver, Fleming and the other liberal weed hacks were really hard to listen to, even tho they do love to talk so much. I wouldn't vote for any of them for anything.

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